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Eaglepilot84 04-10-2017 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 2339086)
So that works out to about 2 1/2 - 3 years if everyone flows and no one gets hired outside of flow. 850 pilots / (25 per month flow X 12 months) = 2.8 years. Ymmv.

I'm actually pretty surprised this is all that are electing to flow post-824. I was very roughly guesstimating close to 75ish lifers would change their mind, so this is good news.

bigtime209 04-10-2017 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84 (Post 2339726)
I'm actually pretty surprised this is all that are electing to flow post-824. I was very roughly guesstimating close to 75ish lifers would change their mind, so this is good news.

Same here.

hawk21 04-10-2017 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2339092)
just in time to retire the e145's and transfer the e175's to RAH. everything else will be gone.

Don't forget the CRJs going to PSA.

Jersdawg 04-10-2017 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84 (Post 2339726)
I'm actually pretty surprised this is all that are electing to flow post-824. I was very roughly guesstimating close to 75ish lifers would change their mind, so this is good news.

I imagine once they put the call out for protected pilots to make their selections we will see more, but thus far I'm pretty surprised as well.

highflyer1980 04-10-2017 02:48 PM

Envoy 824 flowthrough done PP metering begun!
 
I thought they did already? Isn't there a selection page for PP?


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SheepDogg 04-10-2017 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2339528)
Following are the facts;
Envoy su cks, but has a flow,
schedules at envoy su ck, but has flow,
pay su cks, but there is flow,
benefits su ck, but we have flow,
minimum days off for minimum pay, but i can dream of that flow,
envoy shrinking faster than you, but hey, we have flow.

have i basically stated everything correctly.

Is that why you drink at the Blackjack table while in DBQ?

Jersdawg 04-10-2017 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by highflyer1980 (Post 2340239)
I thought they did already? Isn't there a selection page for PP?


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There is, but it becomes a lot more real when the company starts asking for PP selections. I'm sure there are many wafflers and also guys who simply don't realize they can select yet.

Bob Loblaw 04-10-2017 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2340295)
There is, but it becomes a lot more real when the company starts asking for PP selections. I'm sure there are many wafflers and also guys who simply don't realize they can select yet.

There was a HI6 that went out about the time it went live.

Jersdawg 04-10-2017 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw (Post 2340311)
There was a HI6 that went out about the time it went live.

True, but when the company announces the 824 is actually over, it will become more tangibile for those who are procrastinating. Right now it is only through social media that anyone knows the 824 has all been selected, unless there was a union email I missed.

Eject 04-10-2017 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2340413)
True, but when the company announces the 824 is actually over, it will become more tangibile for those who are procrastinating. Right now it is only through social media that anyone knows the 824 has all been selected, unless there was a union email I missed.

Anyone seriously contemplating the flow, is well aware that #824 was just selected, and Protected pilot #1 will be selected within the coming days.

Most lifers probably don't see the glamour in starting over again at the bottom of a seniority list, giving up their vacation, taking a $50,000 a year pay cut, and commuting to Queens to share a room with a bunch of Millenials, while sleeping in a hot bunk wondering how many years they will be on reserve. Frankly, I'm surprised how many (13) are choosing to go.


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