Still beats the UAL hiring for 2017. They haven't held a new hire class since May and won't be holding another one until Feb 2018 at the earliest.

 

You heard correct. Nearly 90 for AA in NOV. And yes, we are more than likely to get hosed.

 

*puts on tin foil hat*
*CONSPIRACY THEORY ALERT*

Maybe AA and Envoy colluded on this to only send 25 total for October and November. Usually 90 would be a number spread out over 2 months. This is a way to keep staffing up at Envoy over the holidays while they get people trained.

Disclaimer: The above post is tongue-in-cheek and is not too be taken too seriously.

 

From the AA forum:

The 6 weeks hiatus is due to the schoolhouse being jammed. In addition to new hires and CA upgrades, they have a bunch of MD80 (and maybe some others) pilots that need to get ready to fly something else.

Makes sense they waited until after the summer peak to do this.

My guess (no basis other than an educated guess) they may be trying to put a thousand through, in addition to what is normal.

They are going to have to increase the pipeline capacity before the big wave of retirements hits!

 

Agreed...seems like they've already got to be behind the power curve in terms of gearing up for mandatory and early retirements.

 

While I don't think AA made their training department plans to screw envoy pilots, I am sure when our management heard their plans this was one of the first things on their mind.

 

Use contract language to screw the pilot group? Management would never do that....

 

American Airlines created a training backlog ON PURPOSE just to screw Envoy...more over, to screw ORDinary specifically. They are targeting him personally.

I mean..sure. Having a thousand MD-80 pilots needing to re-train on different equipment on top of the need to hire and train new pilots, upgrade FOs to Captain, all plus the usual recurrent needs...all that COULD be seen as a normal and understandable reason for a training department bursting at the seams.

OR, we could go with the first and more likely scenario. This is all a ploy to personally screw with Envoy pilots. Thanks for this wonderful thread. It's added so much to our knowledge. Since we are on topic, how much has United and Delta been hiring? And if AA slows down hiring, is it just for flow throughs or would that include street hires as well?

Final question: can we assume that AA won't increase their training capacity at any time ever? The current amount of instructors they have is the amount they will always have? We can safely say they won't hire any new instructors ever, right? Cool...that's what I was thinking as well.

Thanks fake rondon!

 

We aren't discussing backlog. We are discussing if flow was a factor is when AA schedule the dates of their new hire classes this year. I for one think It could have played a role in it. (I don't know and wouldn't bet either way. To say it couldn't happen would be ignorant.) In the past we flowed during the furloughed guys were coming back. Envoy and AAG knew they needed to do it so they could continue to sell the flow.

If they stack a massive number of new hires in one month and meter the flow then yes I do think collusion could have happened. Again I don't know and I really could care less. I got the upgrade class to loo forward to. Bring on DNR, long term, and all that good stuff.

 

I'm confused. Someone posted a conspiracy idea while admitting they didn't actually believe it and I responded that I also didn't really believe it. Is your problem one of reading comprehension, or are you just desperate to find some way to troll me, even when it doesn't make sense?