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rondonq1 08-29-2017 04:06 AM

AA Classes 2017
 
The word is out from the top. Maybe only 3 total classes left in the year for AA. With 30 or 40 pilot in each class, that means that envoy send no more than 60 total pilot by end of year from today. Way less than management predict at beginning of the year. The number they said was 360. Maybe you send 180 all year with this news.

Really bad news for flow. Many here say that the flow never will stop or slow down. It is slowing down big time now. The flow of 6 years for some of those hired last year just got many months added.

E175 Driver 08-29-2017 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by rondonq1 (Post 2421375)
The word is out from the top. Maybe only 3 total classes left in the year for AA. With 30 or 40 pilot in each class, that means that envoy send no more than 60 total pilot by end of year from today. Way less than management predict at beginning of the year. The number they said was 360. Maybe you send 180 all year with this news.

Really bad news for flow. Many here say that the flow never will stop or slow down. It is slowing down big time now. The flow of 6 years for some of those hired last year just got many months added.

Recruiting and P2P's are saying....

Second class in September cancelled. No classes in October. 2 classes in November. No classes in December. Back to "normal" in January

ORDinary 08-29-2017 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by rondonq1 (Post 2421375)
The word is out from the top. Maybe only 3 total classes left in the year for AA. With 30 or 40 pilot in each class, that means that envoy send no more than 60 total pilot by end of year from today. Way less than management predict at beginning of the year. The number they said was 360. Maybe you send 180 all year with this news.

Really bad news for flow. Many here say that the flow never will stop or slow down. It is slowing down big time now. The flow of 6 years for some of those hired last year just got many months added.

While I agree that the company and its salesmen inflated the number of flows, you are doing the same thing in the opposite direction. Per the union we already flowed 194 through July, and I think we sent another 25 in August, making it 219 for the year.

DilsonWic 08-29-2017 07:32 AM

Growing pains suck.

DreFlyer 08-29-2017 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by rondonq1 (Post 2421375)
Really bad news for flow. Many here say that the flow never will stop or slow down. It is slowing down big time now. The flow of 6 years for some of those hired last year just got many months added.

Is there a provision anywhere preventing a "reverse flow" the next time a 9/11-type of event or economic recession happens and AA has to become leaner again? IMHO anyone making life career/QOL decisions based on something as volatile as programs like these will just set themselves up for utter disappointment :rolleyes:

Jersdawg 08-29-2017 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by DreFlyer (Post 2421503)
Is there a provision anywhere preventing a "reverse flow" the next time a 9/11-type of event or economic recession happens and AA has to become leaner again? IMHO anyone making life career/QOL decisions based on something as volatile as programs like these will just set themselves up for utter disappointment :rolleyes:

No, There is no flow back provision.

Bassman1985 08-29-2017 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by DreFlyer (Post 2421503)
Is there a provision anywhere preventing a "reverse flow" the next time a 9/11-type of event or economic recession happens and AA has to become leaner again? IMHO anyone making life career/QOL decisions based on something as volatile as programs like these will just set themselves up for utter disappointment :rolleyes:

You do know that this means you can't get hired the old fashioned way either, yes? If AA isn't running new-hire classes, NOBODY becomes a new hire at AA, through flow or any other way. Same as if Delta, United or any other airline stops running classes because of a training backlog. Even the "friends and family program" applicants can't get a class date. Get your panties out of a wad. :rolleyes:

DreFlyer 08-29-2017 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by Bassman1985 (Post 2421530)
You do know that this means you can't get hired the old fashioned way either, yes? If AA isn't running new-hire classes, NOBODY becomes a new hire at AA, through flow or any other way. Same as if Delta, United or any other airline stops running classes because of a training backlog. Even the "friends and family program" applicants can't get a class date. Get your panties out of a wad. :rolleyes:

Right, so who told you that I would get disappointed about that anyways? I'm still seeing a pig, no matter what lipstick they try to dress it with :rolleyes:

Bigpimppilot 08-29-2017 11:17 AM

If American hires 20 one month and 80 after a break we only send 35 at most. Not 50. The rumor I heard is nov will be a big hiring month for them. Too bad they hose the flow and limit us to 25 a month due to operational necessity.

Chicken Little 08-29-2017 11:28 AM

The Sky is Falling!


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