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10-04-2017 | 06:05 PM
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Reason for deletion of turnback language - it's basically worthless due to staffing and the fact pilots are often turned back for all five days almost right off the bat. It was traded for the 2pm on day 5 language.
Mgmt view on the 2pm end is "that's what the contract says". Can they still JR man? Yes. Union told company flat out there is a trust issue.
On a 12 day off rsv line you WILL get a RTD if JR manned into a day off.
Mgmt view on the 2pm end is "that's what the contract says". Can they still JR man? Yes. Union told company flat out there is a trust issue.
On a 12 day off rsv line you WILL get a RTD if JR manned into a day off.
10-04-2017 | 06:10 PM
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Reason for deletion of turnback language - it's basically worthless due to staffing and the fact pilots are often turned back for all five days almost right off the bat. It was traded for the 2pm on day 5 language.
Mgmt view on the 2pm end is "that's what the contract says". Can they still JR man? Yes. Union told company flat out there is a trust issue.
On a 12 day off rsv line you WILL get a RTD if JR manned into a day off.
Mgmt view on the 2pm end is "that's what the contract says". Can they still JR man? Yes. Union told company flat out there is a trust issue.
On a 12 day off rsv line you WILL get a RTD if JR manned into a day off.
10-04-2017 | 06:11 PM
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Locals hated five days of reserve which resulted in the four day rsv line creation.
First call/last call developed to help with seniority if one wants to fly or not fly instead of straight inverse order. Two bites at the apple to change status to give better flexibility. CMF pilots have a semi-trip choosing ability. CML pilots no.
First call/last call developed to help with seniority if one wants to fly or not fly instead of straight inverse order. Two bites at the apple to change status to give better flexibility. CMF pilots have a semi-trip choosing ability. CML pilots no.
10-04-2017 | 06:15 PM
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10-04-2017 | 06:16 PM
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Now low time FO hours.....it is to keep the upgrade gravy train rolling. Their thought process is to make a better case for less restricted flow. Get the FOs the time, get them in the left seat, keep us staffed on captains. From what I understand, they will displace line holding FOs who will be off and not subject to reassignment to get FOs flight time.
They don't want to do this whole hog since they lose a rsv and a line pilot so they want the ability to bypass FOs on reserve with over 20 hours for the month. A bypassed pilot will get hotels for each night he is bypassed that will not count against commuter hotels. I'm not quite following what they're talking about regarding preferring in regards to this.
They don't want to do this whole hog since they lose a rsv and a line pilot so they want the ability to bypass FOs on reserve with over 20 hours for the month. A bypassed pilot will get hotels for each night he is bypassed that will not count against commuter hotels. I'm not quite following what they're talking about regarding preferring in regards to this.
10-04-2017 | 06:20 PM
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Home study will be paid over guarantee.
Golden PVDs seem to be a little messy right now. It is unclear how many etc. With the golden, the union wants to ask us what do we have to lose? Their point is regular PVDs are a PITA to even get but at least with the two we can not have to beg borrow and steal to get them to approve one. Language is still pending and the days will be seat and equipment dependent.
Golden PVDs seem to be a little messy right now. It is unclear how many etc. With the golden, the union wants to ask us what do we have to lose? Their point is regular PVDs are a PITA to even get but at least with the two we can not have to beg borrow and steal to get them to approve one. Language is still pending and the days will be seat and equipment dependent.
10-04-2017 | 06:23 PM
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They are emphasizing to PLEASE contact your reps etc.
The proffering window is now going to be participation dependent. If the pilot chooses to participate, proffer, and are awarded, the pilot is confirmed. If another trip is assigned and the pilot does not want it and does not confirm, it defaults to the earliest legal rap.
The proffering window is now going to be participation dependent. If the pilot chooses to participate, proffer, and are awarded, the pilot is confirmed. If another trip is assigned and the pilot does not want it and does not confirm, it defaults to the earliest legal rap.
10-04-2017 | 06:27 PM
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The union's position is this is not a swing for the fences. It is a single to get us on base and then in the near future to really work on the major infrastructure of rsv. They believe we will be set back if this is not passed.
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