Flow at 12 Years
 

Latest stats have a seniority date of right about 12 years for the latest flows to AA. That's a while to wait it out at a regional. Probably be faster to go the LCC then the major route vs. hanging around Envoy for 12 years.

I know this is just a troll post to aggrevate us envoy peeps. However, it's all about where you want to put your money. Staying at envoy is like investing in bonds. Low rate of return but predictable. Going to an LCC is like investing in stocks. Could jump to a major early and get a huge return, could be stuck at the LCC for a while and get a decent gain because yeah you'll make decent money, or could go into bankruptcy and have to start all over. Everyone should be trying to get to a major, but a LCC is kind of a gamble that you'll beat the 12 year and decreasing flow.

Exactly. OP also leaves out that those flowing after 12 years were victims of the "lost decade". Not 12 years for someone hired today. Probably someone that won't have their 1500 for a few more months, and wants to discourage people from going there and getting in front of him on the list.

Surprisingly I can agree with this statement. The question is, are you willing to wait that long to work for the major with the most toxic atmosphere? AA is definitely the Walmart of the majors. Now, that said, it's definitely a step up from Jetblue, Alaska, Allegiant, Spirit, etc.

Naw man, I've left Envoy. Done my time there. At LCC now making 164/hr in the left seat of the bus. There are things that could be better but I'll take it over $69 to $73/hour at Envoy is where I would be.

If you are thinking you are one of those getting a 5 or 6 year flow, might want to revisit that with your personal figuring and compare that with the company and the union. Lost decade...sure. That has an effect. It's not in the multi years though. A guy hired today is probably a bit over 8 years to wait, maybe a bit longer.

Because the culture/environment will be the same in 10 years?

That's cute

Kinda like your first beer.

Well, I'm making about $100/hr more than any of you Envoyers right now. And I understand you have to slug it out in a pretty oppressive environment there with regular beat downs by scheduling, management, etc.

But coming over here to just make a troll thread and flaunt is really telling of who you are as a person.

Thanks. Now tell everyone 12 years ago when this info mattered.