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slip2land 11-30-2017 06:57 PM

What stops an Envoy pilot from getting on with AAL before their 'flow date'?

Jersdawg 11-30-2017 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by slip2land (Post 2475218)
What stops an Envoy pilot from getting on with AAL before their 'flow date'?

Nothing.

Half of each new hire class is flows from Envoy/PSA/PDT. Street hire slots are very competitive. There are Envoy street hires from time to time.

f16jetmech 11-30-2017 07:45 PM

Take it with a grain of salt, but chief pilot came in the other day and told us they’re losing 25 to AA and 25 to other mainlines. Hiring 800 a year and losing 600 a year total.

Take it for what it’s worth but sounded reasonable to me.

GodIsGood 11-30-2017 08:18 PM

And when are they going to make the next selection of flow throughs?

E175 Driver 12-01-2017 03:37 AM


Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2475223)
Nothing.

Half of each new hire class is flows from Envoy/PSA/PDT. Street hire slots are very competitive. There are Envoy street hires from time to time.

3 were Envoy. 6 Piedmont. 8 PSA.

TheGoodOne 12-01-2017 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2475325)
3 were Envoy. 6 Piedmont. 8 PSA.

Are these the off the street hire numbers?

Jersdawg 12-01-2017 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2475325)
3 were Envoy. 6 Piedmont. 8 PSA.

That makes 39/84 for the month. Not quite half - the point being that it's possible to get street hired at AA, but it is very competitive. The flow does not prevent street hires. It is doable though, it seems that we have a couple hired each month.

Otterbox 12-01-2017 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by TheGoodOne (Post 2475343)
Are these the off the street hire numbers?

Flows based on the numbers.

Boogerface 12-01-2017 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Jersdawg (Post 2475347)
That makes 39/84 for the month. Not quite half - the point being that it's possible to get street hired at AA, but it is very competitive. The flow does not prevent street hires. It is doable though, it seems that we have a couple hired each month.

Envoy only sent 25 flow-thrus for November.

DilsonWic 12-01-2017 05:33 AM

I think his point was WO sent that many, leaving more than 50% of the class for street hires.


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