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blizzue 12-01-2017 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2475471)
Because he got fired from Eagle and now he has to try make himself feel better and discredit the flow as much as he can in a sad attempt to convince himself that the flow would not have gotten him to a legacy quicker than he'll be able to without it.

I've heard there were tears. Small reward for PM evidence.

ag386 12-01-2017 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 2475473)
I've heard there were tears. Small reward for PM evidence.

There has been speculation here for over 2 years as to who I am and so far everybody has been wrong. But, if you like that scenario by all means, go with it. Whatever makes you feel better.

As to why I'm here as an Allegiant guy bashing the flow, why is a former company collaborator and borderline traitor who leveraged ALPA connections to get to UA here as well?

ag386 12-01-2017 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2475471)
Because he got fired from Eagle and now he has to try make himself feel better and discredit the flow as much as he can in a sad attempt to convince himself that the flow would not have gotten him to a legacy quicker than he'll be able to without it.

I don't really have to discredit the flow much. It speaks for itself. I just shine a light on it. I've got my stuff in at the legacies but if I get "stuck" here at Allegiant for life, I'm pretty happy living in base.

blizzue 12-01-2017 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2475528)
There has been speculation here for over 2 years as to who I am and so far everybody has been wrong. But, if you like that scenario by all means, go with it. Whatever makes you feel better.

As to why I'm here as an Allegiant guy bashing the flow, why is a former company collaborator and borderline traitor who leveraged ALPA connections to get to UA here as well?

Haha. Deflect, that's fine.

itsmytime 12-01-2017 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2475529)
I don't really have to discredit the flow much. It speaks for itself. I just shine a light on it. I've got my stuff in at the legacies but if I get "stuck" here at Allegiant for life, I'm pretty happy living in base.

Uh no. If you were fine, you wouldn't feel the need to shine a light in anything. Like you said, the realities speak for themselves. Only a sad, bitter person would continue to point them out.

Bigpimppilot 12-01-2017 11:17 AM

I don’t have a problem with anyone speaking the truth. If you don’t like the truth then fix it. Don’t just try and cover it up like collaborators. http://www.collaborativelabor.com

blizzue 12-01-2017 11:23 AM

You mean the guys that got you the flow in the first place?

-to be clear, not me. I just sent emails.

ag386 12-01-2017 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by blizzue (Post 2475671)
You mean the guys that got you the flow in the first place?

-to be clear, not me. I just sent emails.

Sure, whatever you say. I can think of another term to describe your actions. Treason.

The flow is tepid and sputtering. 217 have flowed YTD and that is the final number as there are no classes in December. A far cry from the 450/year the company cheerleaders were trumpeting here a year and a half to a couple of years ago. 300 is supposed to the bare bones minimum number regardless after the 40th 175 showed up.

Somehow, the company has lowered those expectations so that the pilot ranks are ecstatic when just 25/month flow. 217 divided by 11 months is less than 20/month.

How did you get to United with your low experience level and lack of PIC again?

blizzue 12-01-2017 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by ag386 (Post 2475679)
How did you get to United with your low experience level and lack of PIC again?

A lot of hard work. Need some help with your application?

f16jetmech 12-01-2017 06:51 PM

Have a bud that left eagle a couple of months ago for delta with ZERO pic. It can be done if you're squared away, likeable, and do some networking.


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