Reserve rules
11-30-2017, 09:56 PM
#11
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How junior are you? I'm actually somewhat senior.
Where do you fall in the N6D list for tomorrow? 4 above, 5 below me.
Found this with HI25/01DEC
Is there any unstaffed standby shifts in the morning? is there an easier way to check this out without manually counting?
If there are unstaffed standby shifts and you are the most junior reserve person on a RAP and it falls within your RAP window, you can call in the evening and ask them if you are the first in line to get it and if so can it be placed on your schedule. This was a technique I used for the 6:00AM standby shift while on a 4:00AM RAP. I could go to bed knowing what to expect the next day and set my alarm for 4:45 instead of the phone ringing at 4:00.
Also get in the habit of confirming your assignment on AVRS at 1700. If you were assigned flying and don't confirm it can be taken away. I must have missed that one in training. I now know it's number one when calling crew scheduling
once you are on a trip you can volunteer to be put on the reserve turn back list. It's a command in sabre which means they can keep adding onto your schedule. Look up the Griffs sabre guide for how to do it. found Griff's guide, RF 100 VOL then
HIHR/01DEC/XXYYY
Where do you fall in the N6D list for tomorrow? 4 above, 5 below me.
Found this with HI25/01DEC
Is there any unstaffed standby shifts in the morning? is there an easier way to check this out without manually counting?
If there are unstaffed standby shifts and you are the most junior reserve person on a RAP and it falls within your RAP window, you can call in the evening and ask them if you are the first in line to get it and if so can it be placed on your schedule. This was a technique I used for the 6:00AM standby shift while on a 4:00AM RAP. I could go to bed knowing what to expect the next day and set my alarm for 4:45 instead of the phone ringing at 4:00.
Also get in the habit of confirming your assignment on AVRS at 1700. If you were assigned flying and don't confirm it can be taken away. I must have missed that one in training. I now know it's number one when calling crew scheduling
once you are on a trip you can volunteer to be put on the reserve turn back list. It's a command in sabre which means they can keep adding onto your schedule. Look up the Griffs sabre guide for how to do it. found Griff's guide, RF 100 VOL then
HIHR/01DEC/XXYYY
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
Last edited by Jamesthunder; 11-30-2017 at 10:28 PM.
12-01-2017, 03:41 AM
#12
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You forgot this: you are not required to answer your phone or call them back once you have a flight assignment. Only when you are on RAP, ready reserve, or on a reserve day with no reserve assignment at all do you have to call them back. Mid-sequence reserves do not have to be contactable in any way.
12-01-2017, 04:52 AM
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This is a big one too. Self release (HI3/6) VS 15 min after block it. This is an OR situation.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
12-01-2017, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
You forgot this: you are not required to answer your phone or call them back once you have a flight assignment. Only when you are on RAP, ready reserve, or on a reserve day with no reserve assignment at all do you have to call them back. Mid-sequence reserves do not have to be contactable in any way.
12-01-2017, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by DilsonWic
This is a big one too. Self release (HI3/6) VS 15 min after block it. This is an OR situation.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
12-01-2017, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DilsonWic
This is a big one too. Self release (HI3/6) VS 15 min after block it. This is an OR situation.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
You finish a trip and you check your HI3. EVERY TIME. How else will you know they have a trip for you?? (And don't say ACARS) If I block in and my phone is going crazy by CS I do not answer. I check my
HI3/HI6 and if nothing is there then I'm gone.
If you were doing a turn off a RAP you also have check your HI6.
If you were on airport standby and fly a turn and there is still time left over for the shift. Check the N3 to see if someone came in to replace you and then call CS and ask them if you can be released because they brought someone else in. 95%of the time they say yes.
Ending a ready reserve sequence you are required to call to get released EVERY time. However everyone doesn't do this and just leaves once their shift is up.
Also, Personal CYA type of move is I use MobileFOS or a station computer. I have been told by several other pilots using CCI isn't a valid method. Again CYA. And yes screen shots are always required for CYA.
12-01-2017, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DilsonWic
This is a big one too. Self release (HI3/6) VS 15 min after block it. This is an OR situation.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
If you check your HI3/6 (screenshot it) after block-in you’re released. No requirement to answer your phone. If you don’t self release then you’re required to answer until 15 min after block in.
12-01-2017, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersdawg
YES ^^^^ THIS. They will try sometimes to pull the "15 min" card after you've self released.
Are saying after you check your HI3 and before 15 minutes CS "THINKS" they can still use you.
12-01-2017, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by moon
Where is that in the contract? Sounds like they are making stuff up with that 15 min call.
12-01-2017, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Maybe Im not understanding this 15 minute card.
Are saying after you check your HI3 and before 15 minutes CS "THINKS" they can still use you.
Are saying after you check your HI3 and before 15 minutes CS "THINKS" they can still use you.
Long story short - check HI3/6 via mobile FOS after block in and don't answer your phone afterwards.
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