Scenario A:
You bid for a late turn on day one for commutability. After you confirm scheduling calls and informs you that your turn has been appropriated and you'e been assigned a nasty 4 day that is all late night flying making it impossible to commute home on your last day. Normally this 4 day would have gone to a jr pilot but since it's appropriation and starts later than your trip scheduling does it anyway.

Scenario B:
You bid an AM short turn on your last day in the hopes of getting done early. Your turn gets appropriated and you're re-assigned a much later turn that prevents you from getting home. Perfectly legal, perfectly sucky.

Scenario C:
You proffer for a trip that includes an overnight at home. Your at home overnight gets appropriated and you get sent to EWR where instead of watching your kids basketball game you get to watch the inmates in the prison shoot hoops in the yard (This actually happened to a cool FO I was flying with. The guy who appropriated his overnight was an ass.)

Scenario D:
You're new on reserve and are looking for time to make consolidation and cement what you learned on IOE. You get a nice 4 day that gets appropriated so instead you spend 4 days watching law and order re-runs waiting for the phone to ring.


Also, I'm not so sure you would get a hotel if your overnight gets appropriated. The language in 11.E.1.d is kind of vague and other forms of displacement (eg. IOE displacement) go out of their way to mention it. Letter 13-13 does not.

 

I spent 3 years on reserve. 4-5hr day trip assigned to a reserve? I don’t see too many situations where appropriating that is going to harm the reserve pilot. If I’m on reserve I’d rather my fellow pilot pick it up for OT and get the 150%.

 

oh sorry missed that part

 

Exactly. Why fly for free when someone else is trying to make above guarantee?

 

I’ve had an overnight snatched from me leaving me stuck with no options for a place to stay, out of commuter hotels and no vacancy in Chicago due to, of all things, Midwest Fur Fest. My mistake because I wasn’t on the turnback list ultimately but I have a very low opinion of people who appropriate reserve flying. Why do you want a 40 minute hop to/from a CMI overnight? Girlfriend in Urbana?

 

Next time, submit an RF 200 HTL and select the misconnect or cancel option.

 

I’m sorry but too bad.

1) There’s no way to contact the other pilot. How do you get their contact details anyway?

2) Appropriation is in the contract and agreed upon by the pilots.

3) The only real dick punch move are the pilots that don’t confirm their morning standby and pass it to the next guy on the list. (Ie that’s not in the contract but a loophole).

 

If they don't want it appropriated then they should volunteer for the turn back list. How are you supposed to contact someone without their information?

 

You are always protected on hotels. If you EVER lose a hotel then you are always protected and they will provide you one.

 

Thanks for the heads up guys. Any references that spell that out?