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Old 01-02-2019 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by martyByrde
Recently I had scheduling not call at midnight, to confirm my next days assigment. I had not been preassigend RAP1/ wasn’t day 1. If this happens again, is there anything I can do with this?
Yes, enjoy it. Your duty day just started at midnight and you turn into a pumpkin at 1400, pretty much.
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Old 01-02-2019 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Yes, enjoy it. Your duty day just started at midnight and you turn into a pumpkin at 1400, pretty much.
Nope. You need 10 hours of rest before you start an assignment. So when they call inform them you need 10 hours of rest.
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Old 01-02-2019 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by CrowneVic
Yes, enjoy it. Your duty day just started at midnight and you turn into a pumpkin at 1400, pretty much.
Lol. Where do people come up with this stuff?? Completely wrong.

Essentially you are on long call. They may think you are on RAP1 and call you for a trip. Just tell them you haven't been assigned a RAP yet and you need ten hours of rest.
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Old 01-02-2019 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Lol. Where do people come up with this stuff?? Completely wrong.

Essentially you are on long call. They may think you are on RAP1 and call you for a trip. Just tell them you haven't been assigned a RAP yet and you need ten hours of rest.
In my case, they “assigned” me the late standby shift. My guess is they were going to call me by 0500 to confirm it???
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Old 01-03-2019 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by martyByrde
In my case, they “assigned” me the late standby shift. My guess is they were going to call me by 0500 to confirm it???
Most likely they just forgot or you slipped through the cracks. It's happened me before and I have two approaches to it. If I haven't worked much then I'll call them and notify them of their error. If I just finished three days of airport standby and the guy that is going to end up doing it because I don't want to hasn't done much then I'll gladly give it to him.

In these cases we aren't screwing the company just the next guy on the seniority list. I wouldn't do it if it's going to cause a commuter to sit S3 on his last day.
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Old 01-03-2019 | 06:34 AM
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A few pages back there were posts re: reserve proffering when scheduled for S3 .

How does it work if you proffer for S1/S2/Trip etcetera? If your seniority can hold the assignment, and you have not been used on S3 by 5p...are you released once you confirm via AVRs?

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Old 01-03-2019 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
A few pages back there were posts re: reserve proffering when scheduled for S3 .

How does it work if you proffer for S1/S2/Trip etcetera? If your seniority can hold the assignment, and you have not been used on S3 by 5p...are you released once you confirm via AVRs?

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Being released via confirmation of a flight assignement only works if you’re on a RAP. You cannot simply be released by confirmation of next day assignement if you’re doing Standby today.

The contract is clear on this one, BTW. If you’re not going to read the contract, I’d sudjest not trying to play these kind of games. You’ll get a MA because nameless people in forums, like me, will give you answers that aren’t exactly correct or poorly explained. Just FYI.
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Old 01-03-2019 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
Being released via confirmation of a flight assignement only works if you’re on a RAP. You cannot simply be released by confirmation of next day assignement if you’re doing Standby today.

The contract is clear on this one, BTW. If you’re not going to read the contract, I’d sudjest not trying to play these kind of games. You’ll get a MA because nameless people in forums, like me, will give you answers that aren’t exactly correct or poorly explained. Just FYI.
Thank you for the info - I have read the contract, and in particular the reserve section many times. I agree that my question made it seem as if I was planning on just walking out of the airport once confirmed via AVRS, but that was never my intent. I was more curious if CS would even award a proffer for an AM trip/S1 if one is currently sitting S2. The contract is not clear on this situation, and frankly I was asking what happens predominately in practice.

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Old 01-03-2019 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
Thank you for the info - I have read the contract, and in particular the reserve section many times. I agree that my question made it seem as if I was planning on just walking out of the airport once confirmed via AVRS, but that was never my intent. I was more curious if CS would even award a proffer for an AM trip/S1 if one is currently sitting S2. The contract is not clear on this situation, and frankly I was asking what happens predominately in practice.

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They won't assign a next day sequence that interferes with the standby
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Old 01-03-2019 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by moon
They won't assign a next day sequence that interferes with the standby
I will say however that if you are RAP 2 and bid RAP 1 the next day, are awarded it, you will be released early from your RAP 2 so as to allow for proper rest period.
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