company does not appreciate its pilot
12-18-2017 | 09:48 AM
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company does not appreciate its pilot
In today's email the company said the following:
"Key to fleet growth is having the pilots to staff the cockpit – and pilot hiring has become extremely competitive in recent years. Envoy has successfully met our staffing goals by offering a highly attractive career path to aspiring pilots – with competitive pay, convenient bases and generous commuting policy, quick upgrade to Captain and a guaranteed path to fly for American Airlines."
Unfortunately they still don't see we don't have an industry leading contract. Our reserve system is one of the worst in the industry. The flow is being violated every month. I don't want to be part of a company where they put our careers in jeopardy in order to grow. I would like to the union to do a bit more as well.
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"Key to fleet growth is having the pilots to staff the cockpit – and pilot hiring has become extremely competitive in recent years. Envoy has successfully met our staffing goals by offering a highly attractive career path to aspiring pilots – with competitive pay, convenient bases and generous commuting policy, quick upgrade to Captain and a guaranteed path to fly for American Airlines."
Unfortunately they still don't see we don't have an industry leading contract. Our reserve system is one of the worst in the industry. The flow is being violated every month. I don't want to be part of a company where they put our careers in jeopardy in order to grow. I would like to the union to do a bit more as well.
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12-18-2017 | 03:06 PM
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When I read that it kind of ****ed me off too. They are limiting flow against the intent of the contract while trying to grow. Meanwhile we are paid much less than Endeavor, with worse work rules / QOL and they think that is perfectly acceptable as long as classes are full. I hope the ALPA doesn't agree to extend the bonuses and instead insists on real improvements.
12-18-2017 | 03:15 PM
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When I read that it kind of ****ed me off too. They are limiting flow against the intent of the contract while trying to grow. Meanwhile we are paid much less than Endeavor, with worse work rules / QOL and they think that is perfectly acceptable as long as classes are full. I hope the ALPA doesn't agree to extend the bonuses and instead insists on real improvements.
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12-18-2017 | 03:46 PM
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In today's email the company said the following:
"Key to fleet growth is having the pilots to staff the cockpit – and pilot hiring has become extremely competitive in recent years. Envoy has successfully met our staffing goals by offering a highly attractive career path to aspiring pilots – with competitive pay, convenient bases and generous commuting policy, quick upgrade to Captain and a guaranteed path to fly for American Airlines."
Unfortunately they still don't see we don't have an industry leading contract. Our reserve system is one of the worst in the industry. The flow is being violated every month. I don't want to be part of a company where they put our careers in jeopardy in order to grow. I would like to the union to do a bit more as well.
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"Key to fleet growth is having the pilots to staff the cockpit – and pilot hiring has become extremely competitive in recent years. Envoy has successfully met our staffing goals by offering a highly attractive career path to aspiring pilots – with competitive pay, convenient bases and generous commuting policy, quick upgrade to Captain and a guaranteed path to fly for American Airlines."
Unfortunately they still don't see we don't have an industry leading contract. Our reserve system is one of the worst in the industry. The flow is being violated every month. I don't want to be part of a company where they put our careers in jeopardy in order to grow. I would like to the union to do a bit more as well.
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12-18-2017 | 03:53 PM
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12-18-2017 | 04:31 PM
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They won’t do that. Many of them have their own personal interests that hinder any action they could take against the company except maybe calling Envoy a “bad airline” to the pilot group. Anything else, Envoy can just cry foul and sue ALPA for causing damage to the airline.
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12-18-2017 | 04:40 PM
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They won’t do that. Many of them have their own personal interests that hinder any action they could take against the company except maybe calling Envoy a “bad airline” to the pilot group. Anything else, Envoy can just cry foul and sue ALPA for causing damage to the airline.
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So from what you're saying many of us are stuck with a poor representation at Alpa? This is unacceptable. Not trying to be vulgar here but we need to STOP bending over.
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12-18-2017 | 04:44 PM
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12-20-2017 | 02:24 PM
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The unfortunate reality at “eagle” is that none of this should come as a surprise to anyone who came here. We had absolutely no representation when management forcefully closed MIA and NY, and our union was nowhere to be found to protect any pilots that were affected. ALPA did nothing other than to send us emails to fill out job applications with companies that were actively hiring.
“Eagle” has metered flow in the past and I’m sure they will again. Even as a wholly owned they have to meet or exceed the quota at cost or less set by Doug and they will not allow flights to be cancelled due to lack of pilots because of flow. Contract violations have always been par for the course. Keep the flow in your back pocket and update your apps regularly.
“Eagle” has metered flow in the past and I’m sure they will again. Even as a wholly owned they have to meet or exceed the quota at cost or less set by Doug and they will not allow flights to be cancelled due to lack of pilots because of flow. Contract violations have always been par for the course. Keep the flow in your back pocket and update your apps regularly.
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