mojo6911

Why raise pay when they have 70 in class?

use2fly

To keep the ones already here.

Gooselives

To attract street captains

Ijustlikeflying

This is how we get our much deserved raise. Unfortunately if we do get a raise it’s because it’s the only thing that’ll incentivize a qualified 121 pilot to jump ship or come out of their current non-flying job that’s paying better than what our captains are getting paid right now. I don’t think a massive up-front bonus will be enough to get what Envoy truly needs here. It’ll attract some, but not enough. Don’t forget they still need to attract FOs to, just as bad as captains. We got them with a double-whammy right now and should take advantage of it.

ag386

Sounds like you guys are caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place.

On one hand, it sounds like the company wants to sell you higher pay rates in exchange for bringing Envoy more in line with Delta and United adding the interview requirement. Read into that as you like but it should allow them to keep more of you on Envoy property as they really need you. As it stands now, the flow is all but useless except for those that are within striking distance, inside of 12 months or less for their "projected" flow date.

On the other hand, if you buy these higher rates you lose the "true no interview flow," however again except for those at the very, very top right now, the flow is all but worthless anyway.

Either way, it appears that your stay at Envoy will be extended and the harsh working conditions show no signs of letting up.

Pedro4President

The company needs X nUmber of CAs right now. They would rather fill the need of getting CAs through a one time signing bonus instead of raises for everyone. In a yearish from now we will have lots of FOs getting a 1000 hrs and no need for the high value program.

Aviatrx

New flash. Pilots are not leaving Envoy as fast as other regional airlines including other WO sister carriers. The company will not budge until hiring stops, attrition increases, and our services become unreliable to AAG. Y’all want money. Let your voice and action be heard. Fill out apps for the Majors.
I think better QOL and CA rates would be a proactive measure to keep the lateral airline guys coming for a while.
Fly Safe!

Jersdawg

There's no talk of an interview requirement, what are you babbling on about.

havick206

We’re you smoking crack or drinking when you posted this?

Jersdawg

He just took one troll post and ran with it without even thinking it might be BS. This is why this guy is completely reactionary and unreliable.