Pay Raise
 

I am hearing the new word at envoy is the company is going to offer raise of pay above endeavor by a little. Return is going to be union sign off on changing flow to interview requirement like endeavor.

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I would take that. Flow is useless at this point.

The flow is just as much an incentive for new hires as it is a tool for management to meter/predict attrition. Think about how many people are without degrees, or have 2-3 years till they flow that are just waiting it out. It's a two way street in that regard.

That being said, management wants the flow just as much as the pilots; it's simply not going anywhere.

I wouldn’t. Flow is useless to new hires as implemented for sure, and even recent hires like me. But we don’t need to be making concessions for pay raises.

Guys/gals it was more a commentary about how the metering is screwing with the flow numbers, thus making it hard to incentivize it. I agree we shouldnt be giving things up for pay raises.

This will be the dumbest thing I've read all day. Absolutely zero chance that flow is given up for pay rates.

Ironically, rondonq posted this exactly three hours after someone mentioned (as an opinion) something similar in another thread. A lot of people have come to Envoy for the flow, do not be fooled. It is a retention tool. If the flow is decreased A LOT of people will be out of here and going to LCC's. Doubtful it could even be considered.

Exactly. All the clowns on here that constantly talk about how useless flow is (most of whom are at airlines without one) would see just how valuable it is, as folks head for the door and stop showing up to class.

Flows a joke. Also anyone that wouldn’t want more money in exchange to doing an interview at AA probably has skeletons in their closet and doesn’t deserve to work there anyway.