Compass vs/or Envoy
#21
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Unless you live in a city that compass serves, getting cleared first on your metal serves little advantage compared to having much better priority throughout the entire American system.
I've heard you guys have to pay for flight benefits and to list as AAC. We don't. Also heard priority on Delta is just as bad as AAC however I have no direct experience with either of those claims.
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Some of us use our flight benefits to go to cool places for fun like Europe, Asia, South America, Caribbean, etc. Having the same priority as AA is priceless, especially for getting a business/first class seat. But yes, if it's important to have priority on one of a handful destinations in the southwest U.S., then Compass is where it's at. Not to mention a WO's ramper's mother has priority over Compass pilots on any AA or Eagle flight that isn't Compass.
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Disclaimer: I, nor do the majority of us here want those planes. We don't want growth as it's only harming our pilot group.
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AACs actually go after D2R which basically puts them at the bottom. And Envoy has jumpseat priority on AA flights over other non-WO pilots. I assume you don't commute because for a large portion of pilots who commute at Envoy (and pilots in general), we have to use mainline to get to base. So being at the bottom of the priority list with other pilots ahead of you for the jumpseat doesn't sound like a great commute. Especially on a messy day. When the standby list is over 100 people long. And you just want to get home.
Unless you live in a city that compass serves, getting cleared first on your metal serves little advantage compared to having much better priority throughout the entire American system.
I've heard you guys have to pay for flight benefits and to list as AAC. We don't. Also heard priority on Delta is just as bad as AAC however I have no direct experience with either of those claims.
Unless you live in a city that compass serves, getting cleared first on your metal serves little advantage compared to having much better priority throughout the entire American system.
I've heard you guys have to pay for flight benefits and to list as AAC. We don't. Also heard priority on Delta is just as bad as AAC however I have no direct experience with either of those claims.
CP pilots do have jump priority on DL flights right after DL pilots (as DCX).
For AA jump, you can checkin for your D6 listing up to 24 hours in advance anywhere in the US. So really not much to worry about being behind AA pilots and WOs(who don’t overlap with our network) and competing with others. Plus you can list as AAC, and convert to D6 at the last minute and still make out ahead of the other non AA affiliates on the D6 list.
I have been a commuter. And we serve just about every major city within 3 hours of LAX, and often those flights are nearly full. I can count on three hands how many times we’ve bumped mainline off cabin seats and jumps to get to work. Not to mention, we have an internal jumpseat reservation system.
We do pay annual fees and only parents pay segment fees ($30 max). Priority on DL is DOH on CP flights, and behind DGS managers on mainline.
I seem to be able to get upgrades at least once a month, and travel anywhere I want with my dependents worldwide, using AA, DL, jump or ZED.
Our AA perks are not as good as WO. But we have two airlines to travel on and that allows us to bounce flights to get where we need to. I’ll leave it at this: in 3 years I have never been stuck.
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