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flysooner9 03-14-2018 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Seaplane (Post 2550220)

EDV is in the same boat, last bid they held had 25 CA spots go unfilled. So maybe a new ENY FO needs to get 1000hrs here then jump ship to EDV for the wayyy higher CA pay. They will hire you right away and no wait for a class date. This will happen especially if the flow nozzle is slowed or frozen.

That ships all ready sailed. Classes are full till winter and they are no longer interviewing. Even prior 121 guys.

in2deep 03-14-2018 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by flysooner9 (Post 2550301)
That ships all ready sailed. Classes are full till winter and they are no longer interviewing. Even prior 121 guys.

Til WINTER?!? I heard Summer. Thats crazy if true.

havick206 03-14-2018 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by blackbox348 (Post 2549921)
Has anybody received any information or have any info about displacements within the 145 training department? May or may not have gotten an e-mail today...

So to get back on track here and put things in perspective. The reality is that only a small amount of people will really be affected by this, and probably only for a few months.

Line check airman keep doing the same thing they’re already doing anyway, perhaps with less students.

Some Sim instructors will get sent back to the line for a few months over summer.

flysooner9 03-14-2018 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by in2deep (Post 2550309)
Til WINTER?!? I heard Summer. Thats crazy if true.

I know it’s at least till Fall. I know for a fact they aren’t interviewing anyone else till mid to late summer.

DocRumack 03-14-2018 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2550261)
Where do you live?

Florida, hence why it was my 1st choice. But committing by taking the ATP-CTP while not having a week 1 start date, could leave me in a bad spot, especially since I won't be on payroll until then. PSA was offering a start date next month. At the end of the day I don't think it's worth trading delay in pay and flight experience for an eventual base at MIA and/or commuter friendly bases.

havick206 03-14-2018 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by DocRumack (Post 2550323)
Florida, hence why it was my 1st choice. But committing by taking the ATP-CTP while not having a week 1 start date, could leave me in a bad spot, especially since I won't be on payroll until then. PSA was offering a start date next month. At the end of the day I don't think it's worth trading delay in pay and flight experience for an eventual base at MIA and/or commuter friendly bases.

Ok so here’s the thing. If Envoy is delaying classes for everyone then you’re not missing out on seniority in Envoy.

I wouldn’t give up the potential to live in your base of choice for what could be small wait in the big scheme of things.

You can always keep working while you wait for your start date.

NoValueAviator 03-14-2018 07:27 AM

Interesting, they were in a big hurry to get us (145 class 2/26) through training, sending 175 guys home for months but bringing us back inside of two weeks. I wonder if that timeline will change now that they're gutting the training dept.

Personally, I'd love to get furloughed. I'll be paying to work when I'm commuting to RSV in LGA and can make a lot more money doing my own thing than working for Envoy anyway. The down-the-road implications of a furlough would obviously be a pain though.

moon 03-14-2018 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2550360)
Interesting, they were in a big hurry to get us (145 class 2/26) through training, sending 175 guys home for months but bringing us back inside of two weeks. I wonder if that timeline will change now that they're gutting the training dept.

Personally, I'd love to get furloughed. I'll be paying to work when I'm commuting to RSV in LGA and can make a lot more money doing my own thing than working for Envoy anyway. The down-the-road implications of a furlough would obviously be a pain though.

They aren't going to furlough. they can't just selectively choose the 145 FOs to furlough. They'd have to furlough everyone in seniority order. including 175 FOs, 145 CAs, CRJ FOs and CAs. They are paying for their poor planning now, but furlough wouldn't be the answer.

Dfwnightflyer 03-14-2018 07:46 AM

This thread is turning toxic.

DocRumack 03-14-2018 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Dfwnightflyer (Post 2550370)
This thread is turning toxic.

U can say that again. I literarily almost puke lol... Fk it i'll stick it thru...


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