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Ijustlikeflying 04-16-2018 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by Jamesthunder (Post 2573678)
Heard the person in question was fired.

As they should be...

highfarfast 04-16-2018 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying (Post 2573694)
As they should be...

The one(s) who made that person feel like those policies were acceptable should be fired. I'm not sure the person that sent the HI6 should have been the one fired. They just exposed a culture problem with management policies.

OldBiff 04-16-2018 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2573703)
The one(s) who made that person feel like those policies were acceptable should be fired. I'm not sure the person that sent the HI6 should have been the one fired. They just exposed a culture problem with management policies.

Speaking of which anyone catch 60 minutes about Allegiant? Seems like poor management culture is catchy.

FullThrust 04-16-2018 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2573703)
The one(s) who made that person feel like those policies were acceptable should be fired. I'm not sure the person that sent the HI6 should have been the one fired. They just exposed a culture problem with management policies.

Highly doubt it was higher up than the fleet manager. Otherwise why would only one fleet manager send it to one fleet instead of all fleets? I dunno, maybe I am being too optimistic but I hope it was an isolated case with him.

highfarfast 04-16-2018 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by FullThrust (Post 2573708)
Highly doubt it was higher up than the fleet manager. Otherwise why would only one fleet manager send it to one fleet instead of all fleets? I dunno, maybe I am being too optimistic but I hope it was an isolated case with him.

That HI6 didn't read to me like he was the one that came up with the policies. He was just the one dumb enough to not realize how the rest of us would react to such policies. Maybe I'm wrong, just the way it sounded to me.

bigtime209 04-16-2018 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by Jamesthunder (Post 2573678)
Heard the person in question was fired.

He was dismissed from his mgmt position, but not fired from the airline.

dvtpilot 04-16-2018 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by FullThrust (Post 2573708)
Highly doubt it was higher up than the fleet manager. Otherwise why would only one fleet manager send it to one fleet instead of all fleets? I dunno, maybe I am being too optimistic but I hope it was an isolated case with him.

Agree. Either that was the one fleet manager that lacked the stones to carry managements water or it was a personal crusade. Either way, poor form and no way to gain the respect of others.

I’m pretty laid back but when it comes to adding gas,( if you want it)either it’s in the wings or we don’t push.

Pedro4President 04-17-2018 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2573743)
He was dismissed from his mgmt position, but not fired from the airline.

Good. I think that is an appropriate step. If you are dumb enough not to know to send an email out like that, then you shouldn't be in management.

Well, I bet it will be a while before he ask for CA add.

Pedro4President 04-17-2018 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2573724)
That HI6 didn't read to me like he was the one that came up with the policies. He was just the one dumb enough to not realize how the rest of us would react to such policies. Maybe I'm wrong, just the way it sounded to me.

I agree. The company CA add list is a strong indicator that this conversation has taken place before at the management level. Pretty sure a phone call from the CP is all that the company is willing to do for the CA add list.

Smutter 04-17-2018 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2573703)
The one(s) who made that person feel like those policies were acceptable should be fired. I'm not sure the person that sent the HI6 should have been the one fired. They just exposed a culture problem with management policies.

Ask any fo who has flown with him, he is a nightmare.


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