Still waiting fo find out an answer in that specifically.

In the meantime this loa does not negate the street ca grievance currently in.

I got an answer from the negotiating committee. No FO already awarded CA will receive CA pay until the NEXT bid.

I’m happy for a 3-5 month bump in my flow date. ****ty that I can’t even hide on reserve now so I’m not forced to upgrade. Happy that at least, when they send my ass to lagarbage I get hotels. Still a ****ty two leg commute but I guess the plaza and A12 passes aren’t SOO bad. But I get some more money once I’m awarded CA. Not terrible. Still think that for the amount leverage we had, this fell short.

Can everyone stop whining about how the PPs were crapped on. Sorry the NHs don’t get to experience the same stuff you did, but that’s because most of them were still in high school. Everyone in this industry knows it’s all a timing game. That’s why those 200 or so lifers on the top of seniority list didn’t go to dAAdy. Cause it was a different time. You guys came in at a bad time. I mean we are talking 5years post 9/11. Don’t tell me you didn’t think it would have a been a crap ride. Some of you probably are the same ones that got hired with 300 hrs. And in ten years when you’re a 777 capt and legislators change the 1500hr rule, you’ll be sitting pretty. It’s all timing and you guys just happened to miss the mark.

Classy. There’s a whole batch of guys who’ll be sitting in class getting FO pay when they could have been getting CA pay had that section of the LOA been worded better...

Yes but withholding rules still apply and there’s another grievance in specifically covering this for backpay due to street CA’s hired outside the vacancy bid in Jan that went of training immediately that this loa doesn’t negate or close out.

To put things into context, what rough seniority number are you right now? You probably can hold DFW (or any other base) right now if your avoiding flying to upgrade.

"Should have"?

You sound like a child.

I hear XJT has like an 11yr upgrade time. In case any of our pilots want to avoid being forced to upgrade.

You can check your pay rate by looking at your “employee profile.” There’s a button/link for that towards the top of the my.envoyair main page. No longer listed on epays.

Probably sitting next to a guy with a month on property making CA pay. Way to go amature negotiators! Another loophole because you don’t understand legal language or worse don’t care.