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Whiskey4 05-11-2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2591799)
A12 'Positive' travel? To NCE? Why not A3 or even A1? Have fun getting bumped.

You can get a confirmed seat. Once the seat is assigned you’re not getting bumped. Wait to the last minute? You’re still a Revenue Standby vs. a Non-Rev. Yet you still complain??

NoValueAviator 05-11-2018 06:07 PM

Someone explain the difference between A3 and A12 to me because I don’t get it. As far as I can tell it’s “positive space on an unsold seat” on both.

Inop2 05-11-2018 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by Inclined plane (Post 2590458)
Third year captain pay for me is $69.68 for the pay band of the small RJ, and I’m an E75 captain. The pay band is real, yet not represented accurately on APC. Fairly misleading.


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With bonuses a first year FO at Endeavor makes $6.00 /hour less than a 3rd year captain at Envoy?

highfarfast 05-11-2018 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2592025)
Someone explain the difference between A3 and A12 to me because I don’t get it. As far as I can tell it’s “positive space on an unsold seat” on both.

This was discussed previously in this thread. A12, as I was told to book A12 when I did home based TDY, ended up being more or less a high priority standby most of the time. As in, I would be waiting to see if I had a seat right up until the door closed... even if there were unsold seats when I checked in 24 hours before. So, better than D1 but worse than A3. Someone else in this thread has indicated there is another way to book A12 that is positive space but only on select flights. That method was unavailable to me. It's still unclear that to me if 'that method' will be available to those headed to LGA. In either case, I'd consider A3 a step up from A12.

highfarfast 05-11-2018 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Whiskey4 (Post 2591981)
You can get a confirmed seat. Once the seat is assigned you’re not getting bumped. Wait to the last minute? You’re still a Revenue Standby vs. a Non-Rev. Yet you still complain??

While you're right about once you get a confirmed seat you're not getting bumped, good luck getting that confirmed seat. I was given instructions to book A12 with the HIGO command in FOS. VERY rarely got a confirmed seat in advance. Almost always standby. Got very tired of people telling me about my 'positive space privileges' that I never had.

EmbaeDriver 05-11-2018 06:46 PM

Edv capt makes $90... we need more money!

llws 05-12-2018 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2592041)
While you're right about once you get a confirmed seat you're not getting bumped, good luck getting that confirmed seat. I was given instructions to book A12 with the HIGO command in FOS. VERY rarely got a confirmed seat in advance. Almost always standby. Got very tired of people telling me about my 'positive space privileges' that I never had.

If you don't get on, that's on the company. It's not like you're trying to JS to work and have to have 2 attempts and use a commuter policy. It's the same way home based TDY works.

I still don't understand how anyone can complain about this.

Whiskey4 05-12-2018 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2592041)
While you're right about once you get a confirmed seat you're not getting bumped, good luck getting that confirmed seat. I was given instructions to book A12 with the HIGO command in FOS. VERY rarely got a confirmed seat in advance. Almost always standby. Got very tired of people telling me about my 'positive space privileges' that I never had.

Definitely make sure you book as early as possible. I think A12s start ticketing up to 14 days in advance, but you should be able to put in the listing prior to that. There are limited e-seats on each flight and, per the Q1 2018 town hall, there are approximately 1,700 people traveling for AA/WO business on A-type passes every day. Hub to hub routes are always going to be tougher (especially from DFW since the e-seats will fill up quickly). I would imagine those commuting from places other than DFW will have more luck since they won’t be dealing with training center and HQ people.

NoValueAviator 05-12-2018 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2592041)
While you're right about once you get a confirmed seat you're not getting bumped, good luck getting that confirmed seat. I was given instructions to book A12 with the HIGO command in FOS. VERY rarely got a confirmed seat in advance. Almost always standby. Got very tired of people telling me about my 'positive space privileges' that I never had.

It sounds to me like you forgot to check-in. You can get denied boarding with any code other than A1 if you don't check in.

Otherwise, when you do check in it will assign you an available economy seat and hold it for you.

E175 Driver 05-12-2018 08:47 AM

Again, why not A1 or at least A3???


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