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unity2010 05-16-2018 06:47 PM

Future on non-wholly owned
 
Check out the video on jetnet of President Isom town hall meeting,
talking about the non-wholly owned...good news for the WO...

The Unsub 05-16-2018 07:13 PM

I call BS on this. airlines will always pick the lowest bidder to save money. Isom is trying to sugar coat the wholly owned airlines to keep people in seats chasing an 8+ year flow while better opportunities are out there in this hiring market.

Jetunderwing 05-16-2018 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by unity2010 (Post 2595578)
Check out the video on jetnet of President Isom town hall meeting,
talking about the non-wholly owned...good news for the WO...

Anyone know how to copy and paste this in the Compass Airline forum?

flysooner9 05-16-2018 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by The Unsub (Post 2595607)
while better opportunities are out there in this hiring market.

I see this line being used in every single regional forum on this site.

Fr8Thrust 05-17-2018 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by The Unsub (Post 2595607)
I call BS on this. airlines will always pick the lowest bidder to save money. Isom is trying to sugar coat the wholly owned airlines to keep people in seats chasing an 8+ year flow while better opportunities are out there in this hiring market.

Preach! #truth

ENH017 05-17-2018 05:12 AM

A quote from the video I found most interesting:

"..So we've got a great set of wholly owneds. I would really like to see us over the long run then combine that with a few carriers of critical mass, that meet standards in terms of quality.."

That sounds like the wholly owneds plus Skywest and one other?

Jersdawg 05-17-2018 05:38 AM


Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 2595764)
A quote from the video I found most interesting:

"..So we've got a great set of wholly owneds. I would really like to see us over the long run then combine that with a few carriers of critical mass, that meet standards in terms of quality.."

That sounds like the wholly owneds plus Skywest and one other?

My WAG has always been the WO + Skywest and Republic. They have the size and resources to compete.

MD-11Loader 05-17-2018 06:31 AM

The TSH guys are all freaking out about a possible merger announcement with Republic in the near future. If that happens I wonder if we can kiss the thought of getting flying in LAX back from Compass?

go skers 05-17-2018 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by ENH017 (Post 2595764)
A quote from the video I found most interesting:

"..So we've got a great set of wholly owneds. I would really like to see us over the long run then combine that with a few carriers of critical mass, that meet standards in terms of quality.."

That sounds like the wholly owneds plus Skywest and one other?

The quotes I found interesting were that PSA was going to have 150 airplanes, PDT around 50ish and Envoy growing to 200. That accounts for 2/3 of the 590 airplanes in AA's regional fleet. I think the last 1/3 will be accounted for by Skywest having 50 CR7, Mesa 64 CR9 and RPA having the 85 E175s. I think those 3 will be the final survivors of the non WO's for the foreseeable future.

Food for thought, if Envoy is really going to be at 200 airplanes in the next two years. That means PDT operates the 56 E145 they've been promised and all CR7s get transferred to PSA by next year that leaves Envoy with 180 airplanes at the end of 2019:

49 E140
62 E145
69 E175

I wonder where those last 20 airplanes will come from to get us to 200.

Cyio 05-17-2018 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by go skers (Post 2595914)
The quotes I found interesting were that PSA was going to have 150 airplanes, PDT around 50ish and Envoy growing to 200. That accounts for 2/3 of the 590 airplanes in AA's regional fleet. I think the last 1/3 will be accounted for by Skywest having 50 CR7, Mesa 64 CR9 and RPA having the 85 E175s. I think those 3 will be the final survivors of the non WO's for the foreseeable future.

Food for thought, if Envoy is really going to be at 200 airplanes in the next two years. That means PDT operates the 56 E145 they've been promised and all CR7s get transferred to PSA by next year that leaves Envoy with 180 airplanes at the end of 2019:

49 E140
62 E145
69 E175

I wonder where those last 20 airplanes will come from to get us to 200.

Hmmmmm, if only i had a device that could give me a "sense of direction" as to where they may come from.;)


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