you have to admit that picking up swayne right seat to right seat would be very, very in character for UAL

 

Oh, there is so much you don’t know. But Atlas is still a upgrade over the regionals.

 

or he just put forth a little effort with job fairs and whatnot. I know plenty of eagle and XJT FOs hired at UAL from 2015 on.

 

ditto but all visible minorities

 

Ones I knew were white males. Some were ual interns and others went to job fairs or had chief pilot meet and greets. It’s not as difficult as people make it out to be.

 

only straight white male i know to get hired at UAL was an LCA and had a hot app for 7 years.

 

no, not all. I know several that were not check the box folks. Several were not even captains when they went. They networked and focused on getting out of the regionals. They like it at United.

 

I am one of those F/Os that left in 2015. I knew it would be years before upgrade on top of the 5 1/2 I'd already spent (see also: Jerry Glass, 'Comair II', ATR's, 135s and 140s parked, closing 7 of 9 bases, etc). When I was hired, junior ATR captain was ~1600 and when I left I was still an F/O at ~1200. So instead I accomplished things that I could control: a Master's degree, volunteering in leadership positions on the Central Air Safety Committee, and spending a day or two each month making sure apps and logbooks were up to date and going to the 'normal' open houses like the ones specifically for FFD pilots. I even went to a virtual open house/webinar for UAL while I sat in the GSW cafeteria between sim sessions (the closer one with the good quesadillas, in case you were wondering). This is all to say that you just have to focus on what is in your control. And yes, we do like it (in the left seat no less!) at United.



Sorry, but you just don't know enough people then. You're wrong on this - there were lots of senior F/Os and we all networked together back then on how to get out. Flow was still years away and every week when you logged on to jetnet it was more bad news - bases closing, airplanes going to PSA, flows delayed, etc. Networking and helping each other was the only way to keep the light at the end of the tunnel from getting snuffed out.

 

Glad you’re doing well. Thanks for stopping in with a touch of reality.

 

Stop.Just stop.