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Old 05-04-2021 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by coodrough568
Unless he takes himself out with a social media violation.
he doesn’t fit the profile to be capable of that.
Old 05-05-2021 | 06:49 AM
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Goodness me. Why the animosity on here towards a guy who is working hard to better himself and provide a good life for his future?
Does it really matter if he makes Youtube videos or has an instagram following? And who gives a flying bleep what he did in his younger days. I have, as I'm sure a lot of you have as well, done some questionable things in your younger days.
It really is like talking to my 4 year old and having to explain why she shouldn't call someone a bad name.
Grow up guys.
Swayne doesn't deserve this.
This will probably fall on deaf ears but, if it helps one of you see sense then thats a win in my books.
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Old 05-05-2021 | 08:15 AM
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I personally hope he puts that UND degree and his networking to use and gets hired at DELTA just to spite everyone who talks so much crap about him. It would be the ultimate betrayal to Envoy/AA and allow him villain status which he can use to focus his energy while on the path to the darkside.
Old 05-05-2021 | 10:02 AM
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The anger towards him has nothing to do with what he did in his younger days, what he does in his off time or what sexual preferences he has.

This all started when he was actively making recruitment videos for Envoy when the company had just broke an LOA agreement we had in place.

It was seen as helping the company while the company was not abiding by an agreement we had in place. Let’s stop dragging this into territory that it doesn’t belong.
Old 05-05-2021 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
The anger towards him has nothing to do with what he did in his younger days, what he does in his off time or what sexual preferences he has.

This all started when he was actively making recruitment videos for Envoy when the company had just broke an LOA agreement we had in place.

It was seen as helping the company while the company was not abiding by an agreement we had in place. Let’s stop dragging this into territory that it doesn’t belong.
Fair enough. I agree with most of your post but, look back a few posts and someone literally mentioned the fact he was on grindr in his college days. That is not at all relevant to anything.
Now I don't like a scab or "company man", just as much as the next guy but everyone is entitled to do as they please. You know as well as I do that some guys and girls will position themselves to climb the ladder through becoming management etc.
If that's the case with Swayne then so be it. I PERSONALLY don't think he should be bagged and have his name dragged through the mud on a public forum because some on here don't like him.
I'm sure despite his different views on how to conduct himself in a heavily unionised industry, that he is a nice guy.
If people have a problem with him say it to his face and deal with it person to person. People need to stop hiding behind a keyboard.
Just my 2 cents.
Old 05-05-2021 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by VidNan
Fair enough. I agree with most of your post but, look back a few posts and someone literally mentioned the fact he was on grindr in his college days. That is not at all relevant to anything.
Now I don't like a scab or "company man", just as much as the next guy but everyone is entitled to do as they please. You know as well as I do that some guys and girls will position themselves to climb the ladder through becoming management etc.
If that's the case with Swayne then so be it. I PERSONALLY don't think he should be bagged and have his name dragged through the mud on a public forum because some on here don't like him.
I'm sure despite his different views on how to conduct himself in a heavily unionised industry, that he is a nice guy.
If people have a problem with him say it to his face and deal with it person to person. People need to stop hiding behind a keyboard.
Just my 2 cents.
I am trying more and more to ignore idiots as it only gives them more fuel, so I didn’t bother reading every post leading up to this. . I agree with what you are saying, but just like Swayne we can also choose how we feel. At the time when all of this came up originally, the wound was pretty deep and the anger between the company/pilot group was palpable. Him deciding to drop a recruitment ad almost on cue was off putting.

I am no longer with Envoy and wish you all the best, including him, however I didn’t want this to devolve into something it wasn’t. 99.99999% of the pilot groups could care less about his personal life, this was about the specific situation I referenced above.

Take care.
Old 05-05-2021 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
The anger towards him has nothing to do with what he did in his younger days, what he does in his off time or what sexual preferences he has.

This all started when he was actively making recruitment videos for Envoy when the company had just broke an LOA agreement we had in place.

It was seen as helping the company while the company was not abiding by an agreement we had in place. Let’s stop dragging this into territory that it doesn’t belong.
I can see why it comes across as recruitment videos, but at its core, it’s not. It’s the same style of videos is consistent with his 135 days. It’s always been about the lifestyle, do’s and don’t’s, etc...

Why Envoy allows it, idk, but it’s not any different than before Envoy. It’s just done with high quality and awesome editing. He does mention the bad parts of the industry, but always keeps it positive. Because let’s face it, the Lord knows Envoy is better than instructing.
Old 05-05-2021 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
I can see why it comes across as recruitment videos, but at its core, it’s not. It’s the same style of videos is consistent with his 135 days. It’s always been about the lifestyle, do’s and don’t’s, etc...

Why Envoy allows it, idk, but it’s not any different than before Envoy. It’s just done with high quality and awesome editing. He does mention the bad parts of the industry, but always keeps it positive. Because let’s face it, the Lord knows Envoy is better than instructing.
You’re right. His videos are not meant to convince people to come to Envoy. They are fairly accurate depictions of what a regional pilot does. He doesn’t deserve the hate... and while he may have been a participant in a very commonly used gay app... he has been in a committed relationship for a while now. He is also wayyy less of a company man than you think. Stop hating on the guy. He has done good things for himself, and he is mostly a line pilot. Also, if you got **** to say... come in person. I consider Swayne a good friend, and a genuine person.
Old 05-05-2021 | 08:17 PM
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I still contend he’s not the same as some celebrity as this forum treats him. He’s one of us. You can look him up, find him, and talk to him personally. Alternatively, you can comment in the content section of his videos. Hiding behind a screen name here and launching personal attacks is chicken ****.

I’ve never met him so I’m not defending a ‘friend’. I’m just commenting on how this thread sounds to me as I read it.
Old 05-06-2021 | 06:39 AM
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MOD INPUT: I think most of you get it now, but let's knock off all discussion of his personal private life, that's only a legit topic if somebody gets arrested for it.

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