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EmbaeDriver 08-05-2018 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2649257)
They could start him on Sunday in his own special class thus circumventing the Monday class and ensuring he gets the 175.

Most likely he’s type rated already haha

HandyUghes 08-05-2018 11:02 AM

It’s all just such a one sided lie, like the Ryanair IG *****s. Swayne deserves the glares I hope he gets on the line.

henryjj 08-05-2018 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2648964)
Clearly a set up

Of course it's a set-up! In order to do any of this, he'd have to work with the company to get access or approval. Based on what I saw in his first video, he filmed on the ramp so he's clearly worked on getting everything signed off on, which isn't easy these days I might add! So what exactly is wrong with that? At least he's smart enough to do it the right way and not stumble into a new airline creating chaos.

If you don't like what he publishes, don't watch it. It's not meant for you anyways. I just don't understand what's up with all the complaining about this. It's so insignificant... It's amazing to me that any of you are spending time worrying about this.

450knotOffice 08-05-2018 02:23 PM

No kidding! I watched his video and actually enjoyed it a bit, even if it is a bit cheesy with the music (but I think that's what sells these days). It was edited well, he was well spoken, and he seems genuine.

My guess is this guy spends only a few years at the Regional level before moving on to a Legacy. He seems to be a self starter who won't just sit around and wait for what he wants to just drop into his lap.

henryjj 08-05-2018 02:41 PM

Maybe I’m out of place for saying this since I’m around his age and just a CFI... but Swayne doesn’t seem like the typical vlogging millennial douche people try to make him out to be.

I watched his Mokulele videos recently and everything he’s done has been methodical, planned, and approved by his previous airline and the FAA. I’ve seen other idiots online that haven’t even come close to the level of planning he’s clearly done. He even did some hiring opportunity video for Mokulele through his channel and got over 100 qualified apps ... he’s clearly framed himself to be desirable to airline recruiting departments and I think that’s exactly what he’s doing.

I don’t have anyone in my family who flies, and it’s kinda cool to see his career progression before I make it there myself... Again, I’m a millennial, so don’t take my word for it if the label “millennial” means my opinion is automatically worthless ;)

ParkingatMIA 08-05-2018 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 2649455)
If you don't like what he publishes, don't watch it. It's not meant for you anyways. I just don't understand what's up with all the complaining about this. It's so insignificant... It's amazing to me that any of you are spending time worrying about this.

How dare you make such a rational statement. Don’t you know all these old timers need something to whine and complain about while they’re in the crew room.

Pedro4President 08-05-2018 05:14 PM

It is absolutely pathetic that this thread is continues to be so negative. Rule number one on here don't talk about real people unless you post your own name. I just want to throat punch you when I read those comments.

EmbaeDriver 08-05-2018 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 2649455)
Of course it's a set-up! In order to do any of this, he'd have to work with the company to get access or approval. Based on what I saw in his first video, he filmed on the ramp so he's clearly worked on getting everything signed off on, which isn't easy these days I might add! So what exactly is wrong with that? At least he's smart enough to do it the right way and not stumble into a new airline creating chaos.

If you don't like what he publishes, don't watch it. It's not meant for you anyways. I just don't understand what's up with all the complaining about this. It's so insignificant... It's amazing to me that any of you are spending time worrying about this.

So, you were crying writing this?

HandyUghes 08-05-2018 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2649573)
It is absolutely pathetic that this thread is continues to be so negative. Rule number one on here don't talk about real people unless you post your own name. I just want to throat punch you when I read those comments.

He's made himself a public figure. Doesn't apply.

Pedro4President 08-05-2018 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by HandyUghes (Post 2649579)
He's made himself a public figure. Doesn't apply.

*THROAT PUNCH* Yes it does!

EmbaeDriver 08-05-2018 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2649573)
It is absolutely pathetic that this thread is continues to be so negative. Rule number one on here don't talk about real people unless you post your own name. I just want to throat punch you when I read those comments.

He made himself a public figure so punch yourself.

HandyUghes 08-05-2018 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2649581)
*THROAT PUNCH* Yes it does!

Watch this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U97l0RbQZFg&t=364s

It's soooo insufferable. Are you kidding me? He's a liar. Flying isn't like that. Yeah, maybe he'll be my boss someday, but he'll make the kind of boss that everyone hates.

I just don't like when pilots exaggerate the job. We drive a machine around. A lot of idiots do this job and it's fuarking easy, but so many people like Swayne puff up their chests and paint a totally ridiculous picture of professional flying.

Bigpimppilot 08-05-2018 05:35 PM

im Honestly not sure how it could be argued that he isn’t a public figure. He’s puttin. His face out there for compensation on YouTube.

Bigpimppilot 08-05-2018 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by HandyUghes (Post 2649590)
Watch this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U97l0RbQZFg&t=364s

It's soooo insufferable. Are you kidding me? He's a liar. Flying isn't like that. Yeah, maybe he'll be my boss someday, but he'll make the kind of boss that everyone hates.

Don’t forget to Like/share/ and subscribe

Pedro4President 08-05-2018 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2649585)
He made himself a public figure so punch yourself.

A guy makes a you tube video and that makes it ok to talk trash about him? I guess I missed that rule.

Old man you need some help.

Pedro4President 08-05-2018 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by HandyUghes (Post 2649590)
Watch this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U97l0RbQZFg&t=364s

It's soooo insufferable. Are you kidding me? He's a liar. Flying isn't like that. Yeah, maybe he'll be my boss someday, but he'll make the kind of boss that everyone hates.

I just don't like when pilots exaggerate the job. We drive a machine around. A lot of idiots do this job and it's fuarking easy, but so many people like Swayne puff up their chests and paint a totally ridiculous picture of professional flying.

Did you post the correct video? He made a video about a normal day for his airline. Where was the lie? Have you ever flown for that airline? Have you ever flown a small passenger plane like that for 8 legs?

Did I like his video? NO. I wouldn't waste my time on his videos. I also, wouldn't waste my time on insulting him either.

Bigpimppilot 08-05-2018 06:10 PM

Pedro are you his dad?

Paid2fly 08-05-2018 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2649614)
Pedro are you his dad?









Identical twin brother perhaps?:confused:




:eek:

EmbaeDriver 08-05-2018 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2649596)
A guy makes a you tube video and that makes it ok to talk trash about him? I guess I missed that rule.

Old man you need some help.

It’s a free country we can say whatever we want.

450knotOffice 08-05-2018 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by HandyUghes (Post 2649579)
He's made himself a public figure. Doesn't apply.

I’ll second Pedro’s Throat Punch.

Get a life and stop worrying about others.

450knotOffice 08-05-2018 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by HandyUghes (Post 2649590)
Watch this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U97l0RbQZFg&t=364s

It's soooo insufferable. Are you kidding me? He's a liar. Flying isn't like that. Yeah, maybe he'll be my boss someday, but he'll make the kind of boss that everyone hates.

I just don't like when pilots exaggerate the job. We drive a machine around. A lot of idiots do this job and it's fuarking easy, but so many people like Swayne puff up their chests and paint a totally ridiculous picture of professional flying.

Wtf? Did we actually watch the same video? Nothing he said was wrong or exaggerated. He didn’t puff his chest at all. You’re just being a douchebag.
Tell you what: you fly 8 legs a day every day with no FA with 5-20 minute turns and tell us all how you won’t be fatigued by the end of the day. He actually said he still enjoyed it, even after that. My guess is you’d whine like a little kid after one day.

450knotOffice 08-05-2018 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2649644)
It’s a free country we can say whatever we want.

True dat. And you can also be called out for the moronic statements you make because, well, as you said, it’s a free country.

Pedro4President 08-06-2018 02:01 AM


Originally Posted by EmbaeDriver (Post 2649644)
It’s a free country we can say whatever we want.

But that doesn't mean you should. I'm just calling you out for being a pansy for saying it behind a hidden name.

Ijustlikeflying 08-06-2018 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2649722)
But that doesn't mean you should. I'm just calling you out for being a pansy for saying it behind a hidden name.

None of these online trolls would ever say sh** in person anyways because they know how ridiculous they are being.

Welcome to Envoy Swayne. Being a youtuber im sure it’s not your first rodeo with trolls and haters.

Dmaxvelo18 08-06-2018 04:55 AM

Wow, who knew a little 22 yr old could make so many grown men b*tch and moan. He just went to ATP-CTP last week. Ran into him at ORD last week, I doubt many if any of y'all have even had a conversation with this kid. He was respectable and upfront when I talked with him.

Also, for those saying he will get 175 DFW, he lives in ORD and that's where he wants to be based. When I talked to him last week he said he wouldn't even be opposed to riding out the CRJ and getting displaced to come down on top of those b*tching 175 FO drivers!
(I added the b*itching part..)

henryjj 08-06-2018 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by Dmaxvelo18 (Post 2649750)
Wow, who knew a little 22 yr old could make so many grown men b*tch and moan. He just went to ATP-CTP last week. Ran into him at ORD last week, I doubt many if any of y'all have even had a conversation with this kid. He was respectable and upfront when I talked with him.

Also, for those saying he will get 175 DFW, he lives in ORD and that's where he wants to be based. When I talked to him last week he said he wouldn't even be opposed to riding out the CRJ and getting displaced to come down on top of those b*tching 175 FO drivers!
(I added the b*itching part..)

After running into him at UND I can't agree more. I doubt a single one of these anonymous pilots on here would say a word to him in person. And if they did... maybe he'd surprise them. I don't know him well, but after seeing him around at UND I know he's a decent dude.

The ONLY reason I replied to this thread is because I found it so messed up that you have a brand new FO heading into an airline, granted, a well known one, and you have an ENTIRE thread smacking this guy down on your forum. Are you kidding me? Get a life. This shouldn't even be allowed on here.

highfarfast 08-06-2018 06:11 AM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 2649768)
This shouldn't even be allowed on here.

Yep

filler

Saucy Dingo 08-06-2018 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2649573)
It is absolutely pathetic that this thread is continues to be so negative. Rule number one on here don't talk about real people unless you post your own name. I just want to throat punch you when I read those comments.

I'll second this. At least this kid is professional and knows what he is doing. This isn't nearly as bad as southwestpleasehireme or the PSA Leprechaun. I'm surprised at the early negativity towards one of your own. It's not like he's management. Yet.

The videos posted here actually seem to be honest, straightforward, and quite refreshing. Maybe it's the Hawaii views. I imagine his video style will change a bit to reflect the airline environment and perhaps a changing and more hateful audience... So, maybe hold back on the bashing until he at least posts an actual video about flying the line at Envoy.

griff312 08-06-2018 08:26 AM

Something about a "take care of the log on your own eye before you complain about the splinter in your neighbor's eye". Some of you are wasting so much time getting all worked up about this kid posting youtube videos, when it's frankly none of your business. Surely you have something better to do with your time, yes??? Maybe let it go, and go study. Practice your manual weight and balance, learn how to figure out Bingo fuel and how to figure out MTOW based on runway, climb limit, and MLW w/ enroute fuel burn.

NoValueAviator 08-06-2018 09:13 AM

There is a whiff of narcissism that comes out of authoring hours and hours of material about your day-to-day. As a millennial with plenty of experience with vlog type content creators, this is hardly ever completely unwarranted. However, I think most of the butthurt stems from the perception that Envoy will give him preferential treatment, like letting him record Envoy's operations while admonishing others for doing the same, or making sure he gets the good fleet in class; although, as others have pointed out, the last few classes have been Anointed Ones anyway.

Saucy Dingo 08-06-2018 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2649909)
There is a whiff of narcissism that comes out of authoring hours and hours of material about your day-to-day. As a millennial with plenty of experience with vlog type content creators, this is hardly ever completely unwarranted. However, I think most of the butthurt stems from the perception that Envoy will give him preferential treatment, like letting him record Envoy's operations while admonishing others for doing the same, or making sure he gets the good fleet in class; although, as others have pointed out, the last few classes have been Anointed Ones anyway.

There is also a whiff of narcissism that comes out of deciding how others should live their lives and share their experiences.

But maybe you're right. How dare he share videos with others about the things he finds interesting about aviation. How dare he use his skills to make money for himself and establish business relationships with his employer and the FAA. He should be punished and publicly shamed for forcing you to watch these youtube videos and shoving them down your throat. Let's all gang up on some newcomer kid because of unconfirmed guesses and rumors from anonymous idiots online, that say he might possibly maybe receive preferential treatment from your company because he knows how to use a camera.

Do you see now just how stupid this all sounds? If you're really that worried about preferential treatment and youtube videos hurting your feelings, have a discussion with your management or your union reps. And don't be too insulted when they laugh in your face.

NoValueAviator 08-06-2018 12:27 PM

I didn't even hint at any of the weird things you're attributing to me in your post, because I don't believe any of them whatsoever.

I'm just saying I can see why people dislike the guy to some extent. Try to calm down.

Saucy Dingo 08-06-2018 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2650038)
I didn't even hint at any of the weird things you're attributing to me in your post, because I don't believe any of them whatsoever.

I'm just saying I can see why people dislike the guy to some extent. Try to calm down.

I only commented on the specific things you mentioned. Stop making excuses for others' bad behavior. It makes you a part of the problem.

NoValueAviator 08-06-2018 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by Saucy Dingo (Post 2650042)
I only commented on the specific things you mentioned. Stop making excuses for others' bad behavior. It makes you a part of the problem.

Show me where I said anybody should shame or antagonize Swayne in any way.

Bigpimppilot 08-06-2018 01:08 PM

I think what the salty guys have problems with are the double standards. If your not in tight with the recruiting department and you video yourself at work saying stuff they don’t agree with then it’s Very likely you’ll be punished to the full extent possible. If your this guy you can be giving massive positive publicity to the company for an unknown amount of compensation. Is alpa going to get their cut?

Saucy Dingo 08-06-2018 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2650038)
Show me where I said anybody should shame or antagonize Swayne in any way.


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2650038)
I didn't even hint at any of the weird things you're attributing to me...

EXACTLY. Now you see how this guy might feel after reading this thread :)


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2650038)
I'm just saying I can see why people dislike the guy to some extent.

Like I said, stop making excuses for bad behavior. You and no one else here has any concrete details of, well... anything. But you sure are quick to judge your own.

Bigpimppilot 08-06-2018 01:30 PM

Hey saucy. Based on your prior post record you’ve never posted here before today. Get over yourself.

Saucy Dingo 08-06-2018 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2650082)
Hey saucy. Based on your prior post record you’ve never posted here before today. Get over yourself.

And? The starter of this thread has only 32 posts ever. So maybe the whole thread should be deleted.

Nice ad hominem, by the way.

Bigpimppilot 08-06-2018 01:40 PM

How’s commutair? Is it just as saucy as ever?

Saucy Dingo 08-06-2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Bigpimppilot (Post 2650091)
How’s commutair? Is it just as saucy as ever?

How is Envoy? Is it still big and pimp'n?


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