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f16jetmech 02-05-2019 08:31 AM

I'm a white Christian male married with 5 kids... Does that put me in a minority? 😁

Cyio 02-05-2019 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by f16jetmech (Post 2757328)
I'm a white Christian male married with 5 kids... Does that put me in a minority? 😁

Soon enough it may.

Cyio 02-05-2019 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2757256)
No worries at all. It doesn’t matter to me who I fly next to, or who they choose to love, be they heterosexual, homosexual, asexual, bisexual, trisexual, quadrisexual, pansexual, transexual, omnisexual or that thing where the chick ties the belt around your neck and tinkles on a ballon, it has absolutely nothing to do with who we are as people. All that matters is that they are safe, and that they don’t chop the power and try to flare at 80’. Swayne is open and proud of who he is and even though he qualifies as a minority and a protected class, he doesn’t seem to exploit it.

This 100%. I think the media cycle has made it so that we have to look at everyone as an exploited class or something and that we all need to care what people do in their private lives. I dont give a rats ass what someone chooses to believe in or do with their bodies, so long as they are safe, respectful and dont try to restrict my beliefs in favor of their own.

450knotOffice 02-05-2019 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2757234)
Why are you so upset over this?

So upset? Lol, no. That's a bit of an exaggeration.

I am a little annoyed at so many of those on here who judge and convict this young man in the court of APC Envoy opinion. There is at least one person in this very thread who has actually flown with Swayne and has said "Great guy to fly with and really good pilot."

Another has said that he talked with Swayne in a group setting with other pilots a while back and thought he was a super nice guy, an overachiever.

So two people here who have actually met Swayne really liked him, thought he was a nice guy, and one said he was an excellent pilot.

He seems to be a hard worker and a smart guy. If I were a betting man, I'd put money on him being at a Legacy a year or two after he upgrades at Envoy. He just does not seem to be the kind of person who sits back and waits for the things to happen, more so the opposite.

I wish him luck.

450knotOffice 02-05-2019 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2757234)
Pan Am, Eastern, TWA and Braniff were the 'legacies' 40 years ago. I don't think it 's a stretch to believe that the legacies of today won't exist in 40 years. The pilot profession as a whole will probably look a lot different if it still exists.

You left out that United, American, and Delta were also Legacies 40 years ago, and all were larger than the four you listed by then. They are still alive and well and raking in billions of dollars every year.

Anyway, what does this have this have to do with the conversation about Swayne? It's a non-sequitur in the context of the thread topic.

Varsity 02-05-2019 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2757397)
You left out that United, American, and Delta were also Legacies 40 years ago, and all were larger than the four you listed by then. They are still alive and well and raking in billions of dollars every year.

Anyway, what does this have this have to do with the conversation about Swayne? It's a non-sequitur in the context of the thread topic.

You couldn't be further from the truth.

40 years ago was 1979, AA didn't even cross the Atlantic until 1982. Delta bought Pan Am's routes. United didn't fly international on their own until 1983.

Take a seat bro.

450knotOffice 02-05-2019 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2757403)
You couldn't be further from the truth.

40 years ago was 1979, AA didn't even cross the Atlantic until 1982. Delta bought Pan Am's routes. United didn't fly international on their own until 1983.

Take a seat bro.

Think again, "bro" (I had to laugh at that one. You schooled me for sure, bro).

First of all, since when has International flying ever defined an airline's size? The answer is never.

Many other metrics define an airline's size - Total Revenue, Revenue passenger miles, Passenger emplacements, Fleet size, etc.

We just finished 2018, so 40 years ago for complete statistics was 1978.

The ATA's own report for 1978 shows:

Revenue passenger miles:
1) UA (39.3B)
2) AA (29B)
3) TW (27B)
4) EA (25.2B)
5) DL (23.3B)
6) PA (21.1B)

Enplanements:
1) UA
2) EA
3) DL
4) AA
5) TW
10) PA

Total Operating Revenue:
1) UA
2) AA
3) TW
4) EA
5) PA
6) DL

Fleet size:
1) UA (340)
2) EA (248)
3) AA (246)
4) DL (206)
5) TW (200)
6) NW (105)
7) BN (103)
8) AL (93)
9) PA (90)

How is it I need to sit down, bro?:rolleyes:

Anyway, this is still about Swayne.

henryjj 02-05-2019 11:45 AM

This thread makes me laugh. You guys are seriously worked up about a 21 year old First Officer that's accomplishing more than ANY of you keyboard warriors will.

While I think the videos are pretty dry, have you read through the comments on his videos? He's helping out a huge group of pilots that have no exposure to this industry. I'm finally looking at airlines myself, and I wish I'd seen his videos a few years back.

V12Merlin 02-05-2019 11:49 AM

Great!!
 

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2757337)
Soon enough it may.

I’m in that club too, can’t wait for my call up!

Varsity 02-05-2019 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2757485)
Think again, "bro" (I had to laugh at that one. You schooled me for sure, bro).

First of all, since when has International flying ever defined an airline's size? The answer is never.

Many other metrics define an airline's size - Total Revenue, Revenue passenger miles, Passenger emplacements, Fleet size, etc.

We just finished 2018, so 40 years ago for complete statistics was 1978.

The ATA's own report for 1978 shows:

Revenue passenger miles:
1) UA (39.3B)
2) AA (29B)
3) TW (27B)
4) EA (25.2B)
5) DL (23.3B)
6) PA (21.1B)

Enplanements:
1) UA
2) EA
3) DL
4) AA
5) TW
10) PA

Total Operating Revenue:
1) UA
2) AA
3) TW
4) EA
5) PA
6) DL

Fleet size:
1) UA (340)
2) EA (248)
3) AA (246)
4) DL (206)
5) TW (200)
6) NW (105)
7) BN (103)
8) AL (93)
9) PA (90)

How is it I need to sit down, bro?:rolleyes:

Anyway, this is still about Swayne.

Is this the most worked up you've ever been over an internet post bro? :D

I think your numbers are 100% completely off, as AA flew 201m revenue passenger miles in 2017 and I doubt all those airlines flew more in 1978. AA/UA/DL were second rate jobs. Nobody aspired to fly a 727 around Texas for AA when flying a 747 at PA or TW was a possibility.

Skywest must be a legacy now, since their fleet is so huge. I'll let them know and report back.


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