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UnprotectdPilot 06-16-2019 11:51 AM

New Swayne Propoganda
 
ATTN: ENY Pilots

Ya boy Swayne keeps putting out YouTube recruiting propaganda for the company. Can somebody that flies with this guy have a heart to heart with the kid and tell him he's effing over all of his fellow pilots in the name of InstaFame, FB likes, YT followers, and probably some extra beer money?

HalyardJammer 06-16-2019 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 2837773)
Sometimes you just don't have to say anything...
Attachment 4513

Why are they triangles and not stars?

johnboat 06-16-2019 12:41 PM

At this point his videos do nothing but hurt the livelihoods of his fellow coworkers and crew members. He may be doing his best to educate those just entering the industry or entertain people that have an interest in aviation but this is one of those cases where the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He is no longer making general aviation videos about flying around in a Cesna, he is making videos that are having a negative impact on the jobs of over 2500 people.

henryjj 06-16-2019 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by johnboat (Post 2837795)
At this point his videos do nothing but hurt the livelihoods of his fellow coworkers and crew members. He may be doing his best to educate those just entering the industry or entertain people that have an interest in aviation but this is one of those cases where the road to hell is paved with good intentions. He is no longer making general aviation videos about flying around in a Cesna, he is making videos that are having a negative impact on the jobs of over 2500 people.

I call BS. Did you notice his recent video was posted hours before the union notification even came? That video he put up wasn’t a “come to Envoy” post.. it was just about holding a line and what that means. The timing was terrible but how would he have known that hours later the pilot ground would find out about all this...?

pitchattitude 06-16-2019 02:14 PM

Considering these videos are made not just with permission from but in partnership with Envoy and the fact that he is getting personal gain from these videos, (the amount of which has been debated, but personal gain none the less) he is chugging from the Envoy Koolaid trough and not going to stop making videos.

henryjj 06-16-2019 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2837837)
Considering these videos are made not just with permission from but in partnership with Envoy and the fact that he is getting personal gain from these videos, (the amount of which has been debated, but personal gain none the less) he is chugging from the Envoy Koolaid trough and not going to stop making videos.

That doesn’t answer my question. Whether or not it’s a partnership, he posted this video BEFORE the union news came out. So how can you possibly use this as an example of him creating “propaganda?”

tomgoodman 06-16-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot (Post 2837764)
ATTN: ENY Pilots

Ya boy Swayne keeps putting out YouTube recruiting propaganda for the company. Can somebody that flies with this guy have a heart to heart with the kid and tell him he's effing over all of his fellow pilots in the name of InstaFame, FB likes, YT followers, and probably some extra beer money?

If you think this video is harmful propaganda, why did you help spread it by posting a link? :confused:

johnboat 06-16-2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 2837841)
That doesn’t answer my question. Whether or not it’s a partnership, he posted this video BEFORE the union news came out. So how can you possibly use this as an example of him creating “propaganda?”

Is there a good time to release a video when the pilot group is in negotiations?

henryjj 06-16-2019 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by johnboat (Post 2837847)
Is there a good time to release a video when the pilot group is in negotiations?

I watched the video again just to fact check myself because I understand the point you’re making. But I didn’t see a single thing about “why you should come to Envoy” at all. If anything, he said twice “regardless of which airline you want to work for.”

Am I the only one seeing this??

rld1k 06-16-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 2837851)
I watched the video again just to fact check myself because I understand the point you’re making. But I didn’t see a single thing about “why you should come to Envoy” at all. If anything, he said twice “regardless of which airline you want to work for.”

Am I the only one seeing this??

He should delete it.


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