I don’t understand what so cool about pictures they always take that show people falling over.

That picture is full of buffoons

I was operating a flight a few weeks back and a grandfather was on the flight. He came up front and was so excited to tell us about how his grandson, a college senior, was being recruited by Envoy.

I understand it though, younger college students probably feel extremely special getting the mail and calls from regional recruiting departments. It’s hard to blame the kids, or explain to them in any meaningful way that they’re not special.

Tough spot to be in as a pilot with Envoy. Hopefully something falls in yall’s favor sooner than later.

Mehhh kinda miss Chavez. I guess he disappeared off the face of the planet. Now this guy is a complete douche. I can’t stand listening to him narrate.

Maybe you have very little experience outside of aviation or perhaps you’re out of touch with the world these days. The kid should feel special for that. Most careers aren’t like that. It’s a good feeling to be, “wanted” for the career you’re still pumped and excited to be in. Most decent paying jobs post-college are extremely competitive. Extremely competitive. And it’s why many with 4 year degrees don’t do much and don’t have much to show for their degrees. Certainly not at a job that’s offering big bonuses and a livable wage.

Wait. You just said something about a livable wage. Yes, there is a bonus. But if you are talking about someone graduating with a four year, non arts degree, there are much better options. And, if you have a four year aviation degree, you are going to have some SERIOUS debt to pay off. I wouldn’t call this a livable wage for someone with an education and ratings.

disgusting

Hasn't ONE single Envoy pilot taken the time to figure out how he's being compensated by management for these videos? They've got to at least be approving the message he puts out. Either way it should **** off more than a few average line pilot joes.

Where does his allegience lie?
The pilot group?
The airline?
His website?

It most certainly is. Many people I know getting out of college with degrees in other fields generally find jobs in the $35-$45K range. And they have debt as well.

It's partially their fault for getting a degree in a saturated field that either doesn't have the demand or the skill set that pays more. Before I got into Aviation I was making $70-86k depending on if I worked overtime. That's without a college degree working alongside people who have to use their fingers to count to 4.
They can't expect to be a social worker and make bank. If they're going to take on debt to get through school they seriously need to examine their prospects first. Just saying.