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CADR 06-19-2019 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Seven3Seven (Post 2839317)
Hasn't ONE single Envoy pilot taken the time to figure out how he's being compensated by management for these videos? They've got to at least be approving the message he puts out. Either way it should **** off more than a few average line pilot joes.

Where does his allegience lie?
The pilot group?
The airline?
His website?

It is quite simple, his allegiance are with himself. He puts on a nice face for social media and in person, but when the mask comes off it is clear he is only out for himself and advancing his career and social status.

henryjj 06-19-2019 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by CADR (Post 2839403)
It is quite simple, his allegiance are with himself. He puts on a nice face for social media and in person, but when the mask comes off it is clear he is only out for himself and advancing his career and social status.

If he’s been nice to your or others in person, under what assumption are you saying he’s different with the “mask off?” And aren’t we all trying to advance our own careers?

I’ve met this guy before and he gets a lot more crap than he deserves. I find it funny that people have been silent for the past 6 months about him, until it’s in their interest to complain online when a contract negotiation fails. If you felt this strongly before, maybe you should’ve said something before. If you’re going to complain at least be consistent. ;)

MEGAFUPM 06-19-2019 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by henryjj (Post 2839429)
If he’s been nice to your or others in person, under what assumption are you saying he’s different with the “mask off?” And aren’t we all trying to advance our own careers?

I’ve met this guy before and he gets a lot more crap than he deserves. I find it funny that people have been silent for the past 6 months about him, until it’s in their interest to complain online when a contract negotiation fails. If you felt this strongly before, maybe you should’ve said something before. If you’re going to complain at least be consistent. ;)

Well this thread was started 10 months ago lol.. anyway people are mad about it because he's a pilot in the same position as us but uploads a video the same day the company backs out of an agreement about the greatness of being a lineholder, with envoy brand and logos all up in the background, which make it seem like a great place to be, whether he says it or not. And yes it is good market advertising to teens/student pilots looking for a career in aviation. Honestly won't be surprised once he gets called for the mainlines shortly after upgrading/building some PIC.

SonicFlyer 06-19-2019 07:34 AM

If he isn't putting out anything that is false information, then who cares? :rolleyes:

Excargodog 06-19-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2839473)
If he isn't putting out anything that is false information, then who cares? :rolleyes:

Agree. And if he is the answer is a coherent rebuttal, not just pi$$ing and moaning.

MochaSwirl 06-19-2019 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2839473)
If he isn't putting out anything that is false information, then who cares? :rolleyes:


I don’t think he’s putting out false information. I think he puts out factual information.

But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.

The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?

And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”

He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.

So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?

The answer is crystal clear.

My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.

Crewroomjoe 06-19-2019 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 2839496)
I don’t think he’s putting out false information. I think he puts out factual information.

But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.

The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?

And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”

He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.

So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?

The answer is crystal clear.

My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.

This...
Amazing how people still dont get it.

wiz5422 06-19-2019 09:53 AM

You are either helping the pilot group or hurting the pilot group....there is no middle ground.

Now you all decide how his videos either help or hurt our stance as a pilot group as a whole and you have your answer.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!.

450knotOffice 06-19-2019 10:29 AM

Hyperbole much? LOL!

He's not saying "come work for Envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing HIS experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.

Leave the kid alone.

And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?:rolleyes:

rld1k 06-19-2019 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by 450knotoffice (Post 2839590)
hyperbole much? Lol!

He's not saying "come work for envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing his experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.

Leave the kid alone.

And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?:rolleyes:

leave britney alone!

lay off the virtue signaling, we're all progressive here. We get it, you want everyone to know you're a good guy.


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