Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2839590)

Hyperbole much? LOL!

He's not saying "come work for Envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing HIS experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.

Leave the kid alone.

And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 2839496)

I don’t think he’s putting out false information. I think he puts out factual information.

But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.

The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?

And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”

He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.

So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?

The answer is crystal clear.

My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.

Originally Posted by uavking (Post 2839613)

Regardless of duder’s intent (money on clicks, fame, or simply helping the next generation), his videos are free advertising for Envoy full stop. I don’t care if he’s a nice guy, or whatever, because what he is doing is not in the interest of the pilot group in this negotiating environment. It would probably behoove him to show solidarity and lay off the videos and other recruiting appearances until we get a deal.

Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2839562)

You are either helping the pilot group or hurting the pilot group....there is no middle ground.

Now you all decide how his videos either help or hurt our stance as a pilot group as a whole and you have your answer.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!.

Originally Posted by SonicFlyer (Post 2839779)

Exactly.

The knuckle-dragging union thug groupthink mentality is pathetic.


Obviously Envoy has problems that need to be rectified. But this youtuber has nothing to do with it.

Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2839693)

Closed minded bigots? Not sure how this came up but I feel you are the one judging here not the other way around.

Originally Posted by Air Stang 7 (Post 2837773)

Sometimes you just don't have to say anything...
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs (Post 2837895)

.....now it’s in your face. I thought we were all not supposed to care?

Originally Posted by tengssuuciurta (Post 2839312)

disgusting

Originally Posted by CheckWheelsDown (Post 2839778)

So, according to him, it's only 7 months OFE reserve. I thought it was much worse... 12-14 months.

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2839808)

Well, these are three posts that stood out to me after the photo of him and the other guy holding the rainbow flag was posted:


So, yes. Those three posts come off as bigoted.

All the rest is just good discussion, even if I disagree to an extent.

Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2839786)

It's not groupthink it's called unity and loyalty. Some people have none.

Originally Posted by poopplop (Post 2839838)

Nothing demonstrates unity and loyalty like anonymously attacking your own members in a public forum. You guys are seriously embarrassing yourselves with this thread...

Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2839840)

We aren't loyal to one individual...We are loyal to the pilot group as a whole and as a profession. What Swayne is doing can and has been pointed out the opposite....He is being loyal to himself and the company while hurting the pilot group and profession as a whole.

Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2839840)

while hurting the pilot group and profession as a whole.