Here Comes Swayne
06-16-2019 | 07:31 PM
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Sure, but should some 3rd party YouTube channel be the avenue for personal opinion on contract negotiations? Isn’t that what the union is for? I just can’t imagine he would ever get into the game of using his channel to promote personal viewpoints - that’s dangerous territory and I bet he knows it.
He’s stuck to the facts so far and I watch all of his videos to see if there’s any “Envoy spin” to them and there just hasn’t been. There was “spin” with his job in Hawaii but he threw that out the window at Envoy. Does that mean you’re going to go around telling all pilots to delete their pictures, bios online, LinkedIn, etc to not “promote” the company through social media? It’s sort of like refusing to eat chick-fil-a and then buying food from another store that donates to other “negative” causes. It’s easy to jump on one person, but from where I sit I just can’t see how this could possibly be “his” fault.
He’s stuck to the facts so far and I watch all of his videos to see if there’s any “Envoy spin” to them and there just hasn’t been. There was “spin” with his job in Hawaii but he threw that out the window at Envoy. Does that mean you’re going to go around telling all pilots to delete their pictures, bios online, LinkedIn, etc to not “promote” the company through social media? It’s sort of like refusing to eat chick-fil-a and then buying food from another store that donates to other “negative” causes. It’s easy to jump on one person, but from where I sit I just can’t see how this could possibly be “his” fault.
06-16-2019 | 10:38 PM
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At least I don't spend all of my valuable time letting a 22 year old get me all worked up 
There's not a chance in hell that Swayne's videos have a clear, meaningful impact on Envoy's ability to staff classes. If he did find a way to do that, he'd be rolling in it $$$... We all know how much these airlines spend on recruiting!
There's not a chance in hell that Swayne's videos have a clear, meaningful impact on Envoy's ability to staff classes. If he did find a way to do that, he'd be rolling in it $$$... We all know how much these airlines spend on recruiting!
06-17-2019 | 07:40 AM
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At least I don't spend all of my valuable time letting a 22 year old get me all worked up
There's not a chance in hell that Swayne's videos have a clear, meaningful impact on Envoy's ability to staff classes. If he did find a way to do that, he'd be rolling in it $$$... We all know how much these airlines spend on recruiting!
There's not a chance in hell that Swayne's videos have a clear, meaningful impact on Envoy's ability to staff classes. If he did find a way to do that, he'd be rolling in it $$$... We all know how much these airlines spend on recruiting!
I have a friend back home who works at the airport and he showed me a picture from when Swayne was doing his walk around while my buddy was fueling the airplane. My buddy was all excited because Swayne is a celebrity to future and young aviators. Again, he doesn’t have to say anything positive. When young pilots start “regional shopping” a lot of them look up to Swayne and think Envoy must be pretty good if Swayne went there. Almost every pilot I know who is still building their time knows who Swayne Martin is. He’s an influence for Envoy whether he says positive things or not.
You’re also correct that it’s the unions job to get pay and QOL gains. But you can bet your arse if classes are still full (partly because of the Swayne influence) that even if you had Jimmy Hoffa negotiating for you... you guys are gonna get jack squat.
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06-17-2019 | 08:20 AM
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I don’t think you understand marketing or human psychology. He doesn’t have to say anything positive.
I have a friend back home who works at the airport and showed me a picture from when Swayne was doing his walk around while my buddy was fueling the airplane. My buddy was all excited because Swayne is a celebrity to future and young aviators. Again, he doesn’t have to say anything positive. When young pilots start “regional shopping” a lot them look up to Swayne and think Envoy must be pretty good if Swayne went there. Almost every pilot I know who is still building their time knows who Swayne Martin is. He’s an influence for Envoy whether he says positive things or not.
You’re also correct that it’s the unions job to get pay and QOL gains. But you can bet your arse if classes are still full (partly because of the Swayne influence) that even if you had Jimmy Hoffa negotiating for you... you guys are gonna get jack squat.
I have a friend back home who works at the airport and showed me a picture from when Swayne was doing his walk around while my buddy was fueling the airplane. My buddy was all excited because Swayne is a celebrity to future and young aviators. Again, he doesn’t have to say anything positive. When young pilots start “regional shopping” a lot them look up to Swayne and think Envoy must be pretty good if Swayne went there. Almost every pilot I know who is still building their time knows who Swayne Martin is. He’s an influence for Envoy whether he says positive things or not.
You’re also correct that it’s the unions job to get pay and QOL gains. But you can bet your arse if classes are still full (partly because of the Swayne influence) that even if you had Jimmy Hoffa negotiating for you... you guys are gonna get jack squat.
06-17-2019 | 08:42 AM
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Isnt this him at the UND?
06-17-2019 | 09:01 AM
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Sure is.
The end of his videos (or beginning, I don’t care to watch them at all) do say Envoy. In marketing 101, subliminal programming like that is designed to at least get you THINKING about a company. That’s the first step, and it’s done automatically every time he posts a new video, intentional or not. It’s rather an excellent idea for recruitment as it keeps costs down, but as we all know right now it is not an ideal time to be posting these kinds of videos but I’d imagine he doesn’t really have a choice if he signed a partnership agreement.
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06-17-2019 | 09:22 AM
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Sure is.
The end of his videos (or beginning, I don’t care to watch them at all) do say Envoy. In marketing 101, subliminal programming like that is designed to at least get you THINKING about a company. That’s the first step, and it’s done automatically every time he posts a new video, intentional or not. It’s rather an excellent idea for recruitment as it keeps costs down, but as we all know right now it is not an ideal time to be posting these kinds of videos but I’d imagine he doesn’t really have a choice if he signed a partnership agreement.
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The end of his videos (or beginning, I don’t care to watch them at all) do say Envoy. In marketing 101, subliminal programming like that is designed to at least get you THINKING about a company. That’s the first step, and it’s done automatically every time he posts a new video, intentional or not. It’s rather an excellent idea for recruitment as it keeps costs down, but as we all know right now it is not an ideal time to be posting these kinds of videos but I’d imagine he doesn’t really have a choice if he signed a partnership agreement.
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