Here Comes Swayne
06-19-2019 | 04:26 PM
#341
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Hyperbole much? LOL!
He's not saying "come work for Envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing HIS experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.
Leave the kid alone.
And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?
He's not saying "come work for Envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing HIS experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.
Leave the kid alone.
And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?
The knuckle-dragging union thug groupthink mentality is pathetic.
Obviously Envoy has problems that need to be rectified. But this youtuber has nothing to do with it.
06-19-2019 | 04:28 PM
#342
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I don’t think he’s putting out false information. I think he puts out factual information.
But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.
The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?
And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”
He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.
So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?
The answer is crystal clear.
My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.
But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.
The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?
And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”
He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.
So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?
The answer is crystal clear.
My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.
Regardless of duder’s intent (money on clicks, fame, or simply helping the next generation), his videos are free advertising for Envoy full stop. I don’t care if he’s a nice guy, or whatever, because what he is doing is not in the interest of the pilot group in this negotiating environment. It would probably behoove him to show solidarity and lay off the videos and other recruiting appearances until we get a deal.
Thank you for proving my point in my previous post.
06-19-2019 | 05:04 PM
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Sometimes you just don't have to say anything...
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So, yes. Those three posts come off as bigoted.
All the rest is just good discussion, even if I disagree to an extent.
06-19-2019 | 05:09 PM
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From: Whale FO
06-19-2019 | 05:34 PM
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And none of them are wrong.
06-19-2019 | 06:04 PM
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We aren't loyal to one individual...We are loyal to the pilot group as a whole and as a profession. What Swayne is doing can and has been pointed out the opposite....He is being loyal to himself and the company while hurting the pilot group and profession as a whole.
06-19-2019 | 06:24 PM
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From: ERJ
That's your opinion. There are better ways to handle a disagreement in principle, especially with someone who may not be trying to harm you. Being unionized should've made handling this internally, and more professionally, particularly easy...
06-19-2019 | 07:06 PM
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Specifically, I want to know HOW he’s hurting the pilot group and the profession. What specifically is he doing that’s harming your group (wait, aren’t you at AA now that you’ve flowed over in May?) and the profession as a whole, because those are mighty huge accusations to level at an enthusiastic young guy who’s simply making videos trying to explain the life of a pilot at the Regional level. He’s maybe 23 years old, loves what he does (something that chaps his critics), and is making nicely produced videos about his job. I don’t see him promoting the company at all.
So let’s hear it.
So let’s hear it.
