Here Comes Swayne
06-19-2019, 05:53 AM
#321
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 366
Originally Posted by Seven3Seven
Hasn't ONE single Envoy pilot taken the time to figure out how he's being compensated by management for these videos? They've got to at least be approving the message he puts out. Either way it should **** off more than a few average line pilot joes.
Where does his allegience lie?
The pilot group?
The airline?
His website?
Where does his allegience lie?
The pilot group?
The airline?
His website?
06-19-2019, 06:32 AM
#322
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Position: CFI
Posts: 64
Originally Posted by CADR
It is quite simple, his allegiance are with himself. He puts on a nice face for social media and in person, but when the mask comes off it is clear he is only out for himself and advancing his career and social status.
I’ve met this guy before and he gets a lot more crap than he deserves. I find it funny that people have been silent for the past 6 months about him, until it’s in their interest to complain online when a contract negotiation fails. If you felt this strongly before, maybe you should’ve said something before. If you’re going to complain at least be consistent.
06-19-2019, 07:17 AM
#323
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 226
Originally Posted by henryjj
If he’s been nice to your or others in person, under what assumption are you saying he’s different with the “mask off?” And aren’t we all trying to advance our own careers?
I’ve met this guy before and he gets a lot more crap than he deserves. I find it funny that people have been silent for the past 6 months about him, until it’s in their interest to complain online when a contract negotiation fails. If you felt this strongly before, maybe you should’ve said something before. If you’re going to complain at least be consistent.
I’ve met this guy before and he gets a lot more crap than he deserves. I find it funny that people have been silent for the past 6 months about him, until it’s in their interest to complain online when a contract negotiation fails. If you felt this strongly before, maybe you should’ve said something before. If you’re going to complain at least be consistent.
06-19-2019, 07:34 AM
#324
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Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 3,596
If he isn't putting out anything that is false information, then who cares? 
06-19-2019, 07:37 AM
#325
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Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,527
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
If he isn't putting out anything that is false information, then who cares?
06-19-2019, 08:04 AM
#326
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Posts: 97
Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
If he isn't putting out anything that is false information, then who cares?
I don’t think he’s putting out false information. I think he puts out factual information.
But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.
The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?
And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”
He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.
So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?
The answer is crystal clear.
My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.
06-19-2019, 08:18 AM
#327
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 4
Originally Posted by MochaSwirl
I don’t think he’s putting out false information. I think he puts out factual information.
But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.
The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?
And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”
He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.
So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?
The answer is crystal clear.
My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.
But at the end of the day it’s this, he’s endorsed and backed by Envoy to put these out.
The videos he produced has Envoy’s logo attached to them therefore that’s free publicity. What does publicity do? Attract new followers or shall I say sheep?
And Envoy doesn’t have to pay a dime to Swayne. But I can imagine Swayne is on their “good boy list”
He’s helping the help, when the help isn’t helping us, care about us, and not doing anything to remotely show that they actually care about this pilotn group.
So who’s side is Swayne on? The company? Or the Pilot?
The answer is crystal clear.
My .02 and my reasoning for not liking the kid.
Amazing how people still dont get it.
06-19-2019, 09:53 AM
#328
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Posts: 579
You are either helping the pilot group or hurting the pilot group....there is no middle ground.
Now you all decide how his videos either help or hurt our stance as a pilot group as a whole and you have your answer.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!.
Now you all decide how his videos either help or hurt our stance as a pilot group as a whole and you have your answer.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE!!!!!!.
06-19-2019, 10:29 AM
#329
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,533
Hyperbole much? LOL!
He's not saying "come work for Envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing HIS experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.
Leave the kid alone.
And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?
He's not saying "come work for Envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing HIS experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.
Leave the kid alone.
And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?
06-19-2019, 10:34 AM
#330
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Joined APC: Apr 2019
Posts: 537
Originally Posted by 450knotoffice
hyperbole much? Lol!
He's not saying "come work for envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing his experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.
Leave the kid alone.
And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?
He's not saying "come work for envoy, it's awesome here", he's simply creating videos describing his experiences and explaining some basic concepts of the operation as how it relates to pilots. His videos are obviously meant for up and comers who might be in flight training at the moment but have no idea what the life entails.
Leave the kid alone.
And some of you guys are coming off as closed minded bigots, btw. Showing your true colors are you?
lay off the virtue signaling, we're all progressive here. We get it, you want everyone to know you're a good guy.
Last edited by rld1k; 06-19-2019 at 11:13 AM.
