Originally Posted by JustAsking (Post 2831263)

I have not started at a regional yet. I have 3 class dates, just need to decide which one to show up to. Envoy was my original choice, and is still one of my 3 options. The thing is, I read all the regional threads, and every one of them has current employees trying to talk new people out of coming to them. All of them have complaints about QOL, pay, reserve, upgrades, exc. I don't doubt that what you all have been saying is legit, but the grass isn't much greener anywhere else. Envoy is a legit option. Might be the best one, might be the worst one, but they all beat where I'm at now.

Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2831447)

Anyone who advocates other pilots not coming here is either junior and too ignorant to know what stagnation feels like or super senior and it wouldn’t effect him. Pilots leaving Envoy is the only way to significantly impact to negations. A lack of new hires would cause stagnation and a huge decrease is QOL.

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2831523)

I hate going off message but stagnation is impossible here with PPs flowing, and what's more, you can add an unlimited number of reserves underneath a guy and it won't put him any closer to getting a line. We're already fighting with WAY too many people for WAY too little flying. More bodies isn't the answer. And I say this as someone whose flow is directly tied to the size of the airline.

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2831523)

I hate going off message but stagnation is impossible here with PPs flowing, and what's more, you can add an unlimited number of reserves underneath a guy and it won't put him any closer to getting a line. We're already fighting with WAY too many people for WAY too little flying. More bodies isn't the answer. And I say this as someone whose flow is directly tied to the size of the airline.

Originally Posted by Toolbox9909 (Post 2831787)

I'm guessing you werent here when we had less than 1,500 pilots and only two bases. With rumors of further shrinking to just one base. That happened almost overnight from being a large regional.

Some people also said that "no way" Eagle would shrink like that, but it did, and it was so miserable that junior manning was being abused by the company, and you had to make sure they paid you for it.

And, most importantly, the company was violating the flow for a few years, and holding people back from rightfully flowing.

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2831858)

We are shrinking rapidly on the 145 side. How does more hiring help?

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2831858)

We are shrinking rapidly on the 145 side. How does more hiring help?

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2831957)

Lines are decreasing in ORD, MIA, NYC.

Projected to decrease more.