It's a little bit of legal dancing from Envoy. They don't hire street captains, everyone comes to Envoy as an FO. However, before you start, they can pay you a bonus. On day one, you will pick an FO job off the board of FO vacancies... then as soon as they wipe the board clean, you will be displaced to the left seat of either the CRJ or 145 in either LGA or ORD.

There have been typically 5-10 DECs per class, so relative seniority builds. They seem to be running a displacement bid every 3 months to force qualified FO's to the left seat. Many don't want to because they have seniority in the right seat, weekends and holidays off, and they aren't trying to build a resume because they will flow in the time it would take them to build 1000 hrs of PIC.

Except you’re not allowed to flow without being a captain, and when you’re upgraded you are flow locked for a year. Once you hit 800 hours the company can even assign you flying if you try to hide on reserve. They will get their captains one way or another.

what planes/bases are DECs getting assigned?

Whatever is in the standing vacancy. Used to be LGA 145, then for the last month and a half all went to ORD CRJ, and last class went to ORD 145. For the upcoming bid there is no LGA 145 or ORD CRJ slots, so it might get interesting.

Thank you, now it makes a little more sense.

ill be commuting out of Florida MCO/PBI/MLB, wich of the bases would be easiest commute, ORD or LGA?

I’ve flown with a couple seniorish FAs who live in Orlando and commute to DFW over any of the other bases.

How times change.

There was one point at American Eagle when it was 10 yrs just to hold your first CA spot.

DFW won’t be an option for a DEC for a long time, unless some anomaly occurs.

What about getting DFW as an FO?

New hire, 9-12 months, or never depending on fleet.