Originally Posted by uavking (Post 2683555)

You really have either a short memory or no fundamental understanding of how this industry has worked historically, eh? One should always operate under the assumption that, at any time, external forces out of your control will stop movement. Go ask the 10+ year guys how long they expected to be at Eagle, and why they are still here. Go ask an XJT guy about the trajectory of their company, including getting abused by SkyWest. As professionals we should always be trying to get better terms. Anything less, as you suggest, sells the profession short. Things to ponder out there in NCE land...

Originally Posted by uavking (Post 2683555)

You really have either a short memory or no fundamental understanding of how this industry has worked historically, eh? One should always operate under the assumption that, at any time, external forces out of your control will stop movement. Go ask the 10+ year guys how long they expected to be at Eagle, and why they are still here. Go ask an XJT guy about the trajectory of their company, including getting abused by SkyWest. As professionals we should always be trying to get better terms. Anything less, as you suggest, sells the profession short. Things to ponder out there in NCE land...

Originally Posted by E175 Driver (Post 2683627)

Yeah, Nothing will stop the movement now with all the retirements now. Nothing. Why raise the pay here? I dont know about you, but Im NOT planning on being here in 2 yrs. Ill be either at a Major or worse at a LCC. But at a regional? Pluhlease.........

Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2683662)

I don’t know why with your shining personality you are even still here. I mean that alone should have gotten you hired at a major without even lowering yourself to work at a regional.

But why try to get a living wage for someone that is just starting out? Oh, that’s right, it’s only about you.

Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2690172)

Pay will come up eventually, it will simply be a latency between the other carriers (Skywest, xjt etc) increasing their rates and resulting in new hires going their instead.

It’s just a numbers game. I would guess something around 6-8 months or so after xjt and Skywest rates go up.

Republic and edv weren’t enough to take new hires away but xjt and Skywest have different base options which will hurt ENY recruiting eventually

Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying (Post 2690205)

What are the new Xjet and Skywest rates?

Originally Posted by Jet Jockey 00 (Post 2690206)

IIRC xjet 50 seat CA is 72 plus 8k bonus eff. 80$

about 13-15k more which is quite significant.