AeroEnvoy

Wait, let me get this straight. You can get paid for the trips that'd been DTSd from your sick bank? How have I never heard of this?

highfarfast

From my understanding, it used to be in the contract. But it's no longer in the contract. Pay comp auditors still seem to honor the practice. I did it for my vacation DTS. Just know that if they say 'no', they can.

Houpilot2001

Ok....so again, conflicting info. Any one done this recently?

highfarfast

I did it recently. I wouldn't call what I said conflicting.

NoValueAviator

It's too bad we can't edit posts after someone replies. If this is an oversight by pay comp (no error from Envoy's back office can surprise me), then it's better if it's not aired out here.

I'm sure management already knows it's going on and it's working as intended though.

Right? Lol

havick206

I’ll try to find the reference. I read it about 3 weeks ago

LineUpAndPay

I heard about using sick to cover DTS on here a few months ago. I've DTS every vacation I've had in the 6 years here. Never once used sick, but I liked the idea. I had a pay issue in August I emailed about and at the end asked about it. She responded that yes you can use sick time to cover your DTS flying however the request needs to be in by the 5th of the month. I had vacation in September, emailed off my request and it was changed in my HI1 within a day. Easy.

As far as someone else saying they're not sure if this is a loophole and don't let management know. Would they rather we use sick time to cover DTS hours that they know about prior to the month even starting and can throw lines to composite and relief guys, or randomly bang in an hour prior to departures? Sick pay is part of the pay package, it behoves them to let us use it in a controlled manner.

highfarfast

This^^

I don't think it's disappearance from the contract was some sort of management maneuvering to screw us. It makes sense for them and for us to be able to do this. Was probably an oversight from both management and union (imagine that!). And so the practice continues. Just know that you don't have any backing to force it is all I was saying.

Houpilot2001

Anything? Seems like every line pilot I talk to says this isnt a thing.

DanRoman

Talking to the guys sitting ready reserve who have been here 6 months doesn’t count. How about emailing pay comp and just asking them? Either way, it’s definitely a thing.