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ZeroTT 11-01-2021 05:46 AM

Although one of the reasonable possibilities is getting subsumed into mainline.

but also possible that there is an equally dramatic bad event

Captainfit 11-05-2021 05:15 PM

Commuting
 
What are the reserve call out times for Envoy?

pitchattitude 11-05-2021 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Captainfit (Post 3319102)
What are the reserve call out times for Envoy?

Long call is two hours. Short call is airport standby. Or maybe should call it short and shorter call.

Captainfit 11-06-2021 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3319104)
Long call is two hours. Short call is airport standby. Or maybe should call it short and shorter call.

Do you know what the reserve time for ORD is currently?

CptnDave 11-07-2021 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by fenix1 (Post 2699798)
I’m trying to evaluate which WO is my best bet, all things considered and given my goals/situation, and I’d appreciate your objective thoughts toward that.

It’s important to me to live in base & at a base that’s as junior as possible for both FO’s & CA’s, but I have some flexibility on where we’ll live (biggest consideration is someplace where the cost of living is sane in a neighborhood that doesn’t require donning Kevlar to get mail); I currently live in the DFW area, but we have no ties here (other than my wife holding a decent - but not great - job) and we may well choose to move to ORD if we get on with ENY to live in a more junior base. I’ll be starting indoc at age 42. My goal is to fly as much as possible (while living in base) to get 1000 hours 121 ASAP to upgrade as soon as possible & build TPIC - I see the regionals as a means to an end. In a perfect world, I’d like to avoid 50-seat equipment (although don’t care whether I end up in CRJ-7/900 or E-175), but - if there’s enough overall & more important positives - then E-145 or CRJ-200 would be great (ie, no SJS here, but I know QoL is better in larger equipment, all other things being equal). Ultimate goal may or may not end up being AA (another legacy or an LCC/ULCC or even an ACMI could well end up being the primary objective), but I believe it’s wise to have the flow as insurance/backup (I’ve done the work to understand other regional options & what I’m giving up for the flow and WO’s are what make sense to us, all things considered).

Thanks in advance for any objective input you’re good enough to share.

As far as cost of living goes envoy would offer you the best options with DFW and MIA both achievable bases as a new hire. If you have no ties to any of the wholly owned basses I’ll be honest you should probably just come here, you’ll have good class seniority because of your age so you’d probably have a good shot at the 175. QOL is maybe just a bit better at envoy than PSA but both are definitely better than Piedmont. If you can maintain your living situation in DFW reserve won’t be so bad since you don’t have to commute. Besides living in one of PDT or PSA’s bases I’m not sure why anyone would choose to fly for them over Envoy to be honest.

ZeroTT 11-07-2021 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3319863)
Besides living in one of PDT or PSA’s bases I’m not sure why anyone would choose to fly for them over Envoy.

SAP for PSA.

Cujo665 11-08-2021 07:19 AM


Originally Posted by CptnDave (Post 3319863)
As far as cost of living goes envoy would offer you the best options with DFW and MIA both achievable bases as a new hire. If you have no ties to any of the wholly owned basses I’ll be honest you should probably just come here, you’ll have good class seniority because of your age so you’d probably have a good shot at the 175. QOL is maybe just a bit better at envoy than PSA but both are definitely better than Piedmont. If you can maintain your living situation in DFW reserve won’t be so bad since you don’t have to commute. Besides living in one of PDT or PSA’s bases I’m not sure why anyone would choose to fly for them over Envoy to be honest.

PSA has SAP which makes their QOL better. Don’t have to play the red for redder game.

CRJdriver2017 11-08-2021 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3320124)
PSA has SAP which makes their QOL better. Don’t have to play the red for redder game.

Biggest problem with SAP is you can’t utilize it until you are a round 1 line holder which you need to be roughly upper 50% seniority in base in seat.

highfarfast 11-08-2021 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by CRJdriver2017 (Post 3320234)
Biggest problem with SAP is you can’t utilize it until you are a round 1 line holder which you need to be roughly upper 50% seniority in base in seat.

Yeah… from this side of the fence, that doesn’t sound like a ‘problem’.

ZeroTT 11-09-2021 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3320253)
Yeah… from this side of the fence, that doesn’t sound like a ‘problem’.

SAP is great, and a definite advantage over every other regional… but his point is well taken especially with forced senior man upgrades

you can be sitting pretty as a senior FO in clt never working a weekend or holiday and then get forced to commute to short call in DC. Not fun


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