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MD-11Loader 01-25-2019 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by dvtpilot (Post 2749466)
I don’t know if I’d put 20 airplanes in the hard to staff category. Between transferring the CRJs, it wouldn’t take but a few of the more tired 145s to go back to the desert to solve that.

It’s growth. A lot of growth. And when the company uses excuses such as inadequate staffing as to why they can’t help us with QOL, then growth is bad. Yes the CRJ leaving is good. It simplifies so many things here from Ground Ops to Flight Ops, and should help improve schedules due to the simplified flight file, but adding more to the fleet just adds to the pilot burden.

CaptJackSparrow 01-25-2019 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2749489)
It’s growth. A lot of growth. And when the company uses excuses such as inadequate staffing as to why they can’t help us with QOL, then growth is bad. Yes the CRJ leaving is good. It simplifies so many things here from Ground Ops to Flight Ops, and should help improve schedules due to the simplified flight file, but adding more to the fleet just adds to the pilot burden.

Most guys haven’t been here long enough to know what the staffing crunch is like and what it can do to QOL. When almost every captain on property gets involuntary TDY. When each week on your last day of duty all you can think about is how to avoid the junior man coming your way after seeing 5 trips open and zero reserves. When reserve guys that commute might see 6 days off a month because they’re forced to commute on their days off on both ends constantly.

20 planes is a huge shock wave for us to handle appropriately. Sure, critical coverage declared everyday for months is nice and all but tie everything together and it will burn you out quickly. Not to mention the threat of the flow potentially having to be stopped due to staffing.

Cyio 01-25-2019 04:50 AM


Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow (Post 2749522)
Most guys haven’t been here long enough to know what the staffing crunch is like and what it can do to QOL. When almost every captain on property gets involuntary TDY. When each week on your last day of duty all you can think about is how to avoid the junior man coming your way after seeing 5 trips open and zero reserves. When reserve guys that commute might see 6 days off a month because they’re forced to commute on their days off on both ends constantly.

20 planes is a huge shock wave for us to handle appropriately. Sure, critical coverage declared everyday for months is nice and all but tie everything together and it will burn you out quickly. Not to mention the threat of the flow potentially having to be stopped due to staffing.

This right here. Growth is great when it comes in nice and steady. A sudden influx of 20 planes and all the flying that entails would be a shock. My biggest fear is the flow changing up or being "temporarily" stopped or slowed.

TeeRainPULup 01-25-2019 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2749531)
This right here. Growth is great when it comes in nice and steady. A sudden influx of 20 planes and all the flying that entails would be a shock. My biggest fear is the flow changing up or being "temporarily" stopped or slowed.

If this happened-Spirit, Frontier, JB, Atlas and the like would have a large amount of applications cross their desk. Talk about staffing problems.

CaptJackSparrow 01-25-2019 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup (Post 2749540)
If this happened-Spirit, Frontier, JB, Atlas and the like would have a large amount of applications cross their desk. Talk about staffing problems.

I highly doubt it. The company would likely say “it’s only temporary, we will start flowing again next month” and continue to dangle the “next month” carrot in front of us. Too many guys too close to flowing and too many guys stuck paying back a $45K or $25K bonus would surely keep everyone at bay.

amcnd 01-25-2019 09:58 AM

I was LAX based for Eagle. Was a awesome base and pretty cool flying.. but I wouldn’t trade a lax base for flow. You cN get there when you flow to AA. Keep your eye on the prize. And thats not Compass aircraft...

N200NN 01-26-2019 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by MD-11Loader (Post 2749302)
RW was open and to the point in one of his meetings a few months ago that he believes that LAX is coming back and that it will be announced this summer.


“this summer” circa 2013
...2014
....2015
.....2016
......2017
.......2018
........2019

Every time I meet a mainline pilot:
“Hey bud, you got your apps in? You know we’re hiring right?”

Every time I meet an Envoy pilot:
“LAX base is opening next month for sure”

buddies8 01-26-2019 08:43 AM

Funny how mainline pilots are now recruiting pilots. As for lax, you may get fly through flights but an lax base happening, better chances at the lottery.

KodiakRS 01-26-2019 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2750350)
As for lax, you may get fly through flights but an lax base happening, better chances at the lottery.


Most of the Compass Eagle flying is stuff we used to do on the CRJ. All Eagle/Envoy CRJ flights in LAX were through flights so there's a good chance that you're correct and if* we get the Compass flying it'll just be handled by DFW or ORD 175 crews.



*That's a very big if.

Phoenix21 01-26-2019 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by dvtpilot (Post 2749466)
I don’t know if I’d put 20 airplanes in the hard to staff category... it wouldn’t take but a few of the more tired 145s to go back to the desert to solve that.

*cough* Piedmont *cough*


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