Originally Posted by wiz5422

Grab a napkin and a sharpie and write " The pilots will do whatever the company ask of them and as they see fit. Anything written in the contract is interpreted as the company sees fit. If you have a problem with it....fly it and grieve it.





That is how our contract is. You were warned.

Originally Posted by Cyio

So here is the thing with our contract, it is absurdly confusing and even if you had a copy, it wouldn't make sense. lol, hell even people that work here and know it well still takes awhile to find anything useful.

The reason is that we are still operating under our bankruptcy/concession contract from five some years ago, amended with a bunch of Letter of Agreements. So what happens is that you can read the contract and think you know what it is saying, but without knowing that we have an LOA regarding that section you would be getting misled.

As stupid and silly as it sounds, our contract doesn't reference LOA's in the contract itself. So again, you may think you are reading the correct information, but there may be a hidden gem somewhere that would completely contradict the contract.

Anyway, best of luck, the easier solution would be to ask your specific questions here and let others answer.

Originally Posted by Cujo665

No, you’re operating under a 16 year contract that was amended with LOA’s over the years, went through several amendment rounds were short term gains cost the group long term losses repeatedly. Then a round of concessions for promises of good things, with more LOA’s, then a bankruptcy that became another amendment round only with more concessions and a 10 year extension.

If you think reading all the LOA changes is hard now, you should have seen it before our MEC consolidated all the old ones into a single source CBA back around 2013.

Originally Posted by Cyio

Well the point still stands lol.