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havick206 03-16-2019 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2783596)
I hope you are planning on staying with Guard/Reserve/IRR after you leave AD. Fifteen years is a lot to leave on the table for retirement that is more assured than anything else in this fickle industry.



1000 hours 121 PIC may define a “well qualified” street applicant, but how many of those do the regionals have? Plenty. The number that have Masters Degrees or even Bachelors is much less, but “well qualified” still isn’t necessarily where they are actually hiring.

Pretty much the majority of non military street hires from Envoy to AA have been check airman

AV8R72 03-16-2019 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2783596)
I hope you are planning on staying with Guard/Reserve/IRR after you leave AD. Fifteen years is a lot to leave on the table for retirement that is more assured than anything else in this fickle industry.



1000 hours 121 PIC may define a “well qualified” street applicant, but how many of those do the regionals have? Plenty. The number that have Masters Degrees or even Bachelors is much less, but “well qualified” still isn’t necessarily where they are actually hiring.

Yes, without a doubt going to get the 20 with the guard.

Cyio 03-17-2019 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 2783666)
Pretty much the majority of non military street hires from Envoy to AA have been check airman

Recently spoke with a CA for us and apparently that avenue has been shut down. AA won't actively hire our CA outside of the flow anymore.

bh539 03-17-2019 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2784111)
Recently spoke with a CA for us and apparently that avenue has been shut down. AA won't actively hire our CA outside of the flow anymore.

I heard from a FA the other day that AA will start hiring envoy FOs but only if you're 175 typed, they only want mainline typed drivers.

bigtime209 03-17-2019 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2784111)
Recently spoke with a CA for us and apparently that avenue has been shut down. AA won't actively hire our CA outside of the flow anymore.

I call BS on that. We've got a few guys going in for interviews soon.

Cyio 03-17-2019 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by bigtime209 (Post 2784122)
I call BS on that. We've got a few guys going in for interviews soon.

Call it what you want, but this source would know and has no reason to make it up. Just passing on what I heard. By CA in this regard, I am referring to Check Airmen.

bh539 03-17-2019 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2784136)
Call it what you want, but this source would know and has no reason to make it up. Just passing on what I heard. By CA in this regard, I am referring to Check Airmen.

Sounds like he didn't get a call back

havick206 03-17-2019 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 2784111)
Recently spoke with a CA for us and apparently that avenue has been shut down. AA won't actively hire our CA outside of the flow anymore.

And that CA has spoken with the recruiters at AA and has the numbers?

That’s contrary to the evidence.

NoValueAviator 03-17-2019 11:55 AM

A lot of guys speculate about whether AA is more or less interested in people who work for the wholly-owneds in terms like "AA won't hire Envoy captains because they want to squeeze as many years of (practically) free flying out of them as possible!" That's probably what this is.

Historically, WO pilots selected outside of the flow at AA have gotten way more slots than the portion of the regional workforce we represent (54 pilots last year out of 397 street hires, 216 of which were .mil).

Cyio 03-17-2019 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by bh539 (Post 2784215)
Sounds like he didn't get a call back

This individual wasn’t trying to get a call in the first place.


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