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-   -   Would you recommend flying for Envoy? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/envoy-airlines/120976-would-you-recommend-flying-envoy.html)

MySaabStory 04-03-2019 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by UnderCenter (Post 2795165)
And these scare tactics right here are why Envoy can get away with not rasing pay or improving QOL. Latching yourself on to flow is like being an AA indentured servant...
100% agreed. Doesn’t stop anyone from getting hired on there own elsewhere. It’s just an insurance policy...that’s all.

pitchattitude 04-03-2019 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerZ (Post 2794953)
I've still got a couple years of training and flight instructing left to do, but i'm currently comparing Envoy and Skywest as potential airlines to start out with. The Skywest forum seems pretty positive overall, the Envoy forum on the other hand... not so much. So, Envoy pilots, would you recommend flying here?
So, see the latest thread on pay at PSA...

UncreativeUser 04-03-2019 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by UnderCenter (Post 2795089)
You want to enlighten us about how Skywest has worse pay rules? You mean like having 4:12 MDG, 1:2 duty rigs, 1:4 trip rigs, 76 hour monthly guarantee, 130% over 87 hours awarded, $1.95 per diem, holiday pay even if we don’t work the holiday, pilot profit sharing, performance bonuses, and company profit sharing? You mean those pay rules???


Yeah that’s with the current pay rules after they all fighter tooth and nail for that. Idk if you saw PSA’s new deal but they clearly have the lead now. Also, SKW has no flow still, so if all the WO’s get on the same page I don’t see a reason why to work there other than the “sweet” travel benefits that are all on a lower priority anyways.


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Chunk 04-03-2019 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by in2deep (Post 2795268)
Anyone who still comes to Envoy after the whole firing debacle is a f*cking idiot
What’s the story for those that missed it?

in2deep 04-03-2019 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chunk (Post 2795717)
What’s the story for those that missed it?


Its all over these forums. Crew makes an easy mistake that is corrected by several other safety systems in place. They file an asap and subsequently lose their job.

Smutter 04-03-2019 07:56 PM
No unless you have zero choices elsewhere, and zero chances of getting choices at elsewhere. ****, we are the new Mesa times 10.

Varsity 04-03-2019 08:03 PM
I would not recommend working for Envoy. Somehow we have pay rates that are only matched by mesa.

PSA

Flow, Money and QOL.

Tyrion 04-03-2019 08:09 PM
If you are right at hiring mins, live in Chicago, want plenty of time off while collecting min guarantee, and want to start at AA in 8 years... This is the place for you.

Any other situation, there is probably a better paying, better QOL job for you somewhere.

MySaabStory 04-03-2019 08:17 PM
Ok. Do we know if there were other circumstances? Like they reviewed the tapes and something else pops up. I just can’t understand how that’s possible.

havick206 04-03-2019 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MySaabStory (Post 2795744)
Ok. Do we know if there were other circumstances? Like they reviewed the tapes and something else pops up. I just can’t understand how that’s possible.
Yes, the other circumstances were that the media got a hold of the incident and publicized it. That’s it.


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