Originally Posted by NeverHome

For anyone trying to pass a 121 new hire training (any airline), here is the secret sauce:

Attitude, show up hungry to learn. You gotta want to learn not only the plane but the company too.

Study, lots and lots. Here is how: note cards. Write out the notecards. The act of writing will be another time you see the specific details. Doing the cards over and over again will help. After that quiz and be quizzed by classmates.

Get sleep, don’t stay up all night. If your tired you will only waste your own time as you won’t learn squat.

Excercise, not crazy but a little goes a long way.

Eat decent food. Burger King has bent many new hires over and railed them. Doesn’t gotta be super vegan BS. Just decent, like leave it to beaver.

Have a beer, A Beer! Not The Whole darn 6 pack. Seriously have a beer, not kidding, I’m encouraging a drink.

Study some more, be an expert.

Lastly, ask good questions in class and stay engaged. This will be of tremendous benefit for everyone.

Best of luck

Originally Posted by Cyio

This is pretty spot on guidance to be honest. I do want to focus on one particular item and that is study with your classmates.

Form a group of four that get along with each other, don't make the mistake of a huge group or it gets distracting. Study and quiz each other over and over again. I have found time and time again that people seem to do the best with this route.

As around for a "study guide" and use that to quiz each other. You will learn almost everything you need to know for training by doing that. Beyond the quizzing, ask questions, especially in the early days of CPT so that you at least have a grasp of the avionics.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

That’s good advice for some, but certainly not all. I’ve never been one to study in groups, and I’m fact I find it counter-productive.

I do highly recommend studying flows and call outs with your sim partner though. That is mandatory for success.

Originally Posted by havick206

Back in those days did a new hire get a PIC type rating and an ATP ride? I’m not sure, but there’s obviously different practical test standards if so.

Just a hunch, I could be wrong

Originally Posted by Rotor2prop

No it was just an SIC rating but I think the IFR standards were the same either PIC or SIC.

Originally Posted by SilentLurker

Why don’t we Ram them through training. Save some $,$$$. Let the newer LCA’s, and unseasoned CA’s save our butts by just train them on the on the line how to operate 121 IFR and how to properly shoot approaches on the line, and how to not royally jack up radio calls in IFR, professional, 121 environment!

OP... Don’t come here without IFR currency, comfort, and proficiency at both flying, handling radio calls, (general multi-tasking,thought processes/decision making) in that environment. You will thank the Aviation God(s) one day for this post and will have a prosperous career.

Edited: Taking short cuts into 121 when not ready for what is ahead is unwise, it could slap or bite you hard during training and beyond.

Originally Posted by Cyio

To each their own I suppose, however you even hear them at the schoolhouse tell you that group study, when done correctly is the best way to get through this. Hard to beat a few other people asking you questions over and over and then you do the same.

As for being counter productive it certainly can be, hence why I stated no more than 4. Anyway, just some advice and from doing it a few times over the years, it seems those that group up have an easier time than those who dont and as an added bonus, you will usually make some friends that will stick with you for your career.