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wiz5422 04-03-2019 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jackson28 (Post 2795575)
Agreed 100%, Hopefully this will make the pilot group more vocal towards the union.


How many of you are still picking up OT? How many of you are calling for rampers, gate agents, fuel, and catering? How many of you are not following SOP when it comes to writhing every discrepancy you see...even at an out station?

We are our own worse enemy. Unity starts with us.

moon 04-03-2019 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2795619)
How many of you are still picking up OT? How many of you are calling for rampers, gate agents, fuel, and catering? How many of you are not following SOP when it comes to writhing every discrepancy you see...even at an out station?

We are our own worse enemy. Unity starts with us.

How many are proffering for this vacancy bid that closes soon. Keep the 15.G.4 displacements coming it certainly isn't ideal for the company.

dera 04-03-2019 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2795619)
How many of you are still picking up OT? How many of you are calling for rampers, gate agents, fuel, and catering? How many of you are not following SOP when it comes to writhing every discrepancy you see...even at an out station?

We are our own worse enemy. Unity starts with us.

Most OT goes super senior, so clearly quite a few are picking them up.

Timbird 04-03-2019 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 2795619)
How many of you are still picking up OT? How many of you are calling for rampers, gate agents, fuel, and catering? How many of you are not following SOP when it comes to writhing every discrepancy you see...even at an out station?

We are our own worse enemy. Unity starts with us.

Well said. EVERYONE read this. It starts with us. The union is helpless without pilot “support.”

Toolbox9909 04-03-2019 06:19 PM

What unity?
 
ALPA should not have let this gone through, while they are well aware that envoy pilots (also represented by alpa) has also been fighting for a pay raise. Where is the unity in that? Whipsawing has begun again. If PSA is having recruiting problems, that should have been ALPAs bargaining chip to raise the level for all its union members within the WO. That is the union's job. It doesn't start with me. It starts with them, they are the labor stewards.

Squirrel27 04-03-2019 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by Toolbox9909 (Post 2795660)
ALPA should not have let this gone through, while they are well aware that envoy pilots (also represented by alpa) has also been fighting for a pay raise. Where is the unity in that? Whipsawing has begun again. If PSA is having recruiting problems, that should have been ALPAs bargaining chip to raise the level for all its union members within the WO. That is the union's job. It doesn't start with me. It starts with them, they are the labor stewards.

Yeah I agree with this. ALPA takes a lot of our money for "unity." But unity means raising QOL and pay for all of us, not just one group at a time.

pitchattitude 04-03-2019 06:59 PM

ENY MEC response
 
It isn’t necessarily a public statement, so I won’t post it here, but the ENY MEC has issued a statement in response to the PSA contract situation. Check your emails.

Varsity 04-03-2019 07:08 PM

PSA took our airplanes and now they will take our pilots.

Like it or not Dion Flannery has turned PSA into a major regional player. He hoodwink'd envoy from Dayton Ohio. Meanwhile RW, RN and Pedro can't even hold onto our existing flying.

We're clearly on the loser team here folks.

Varsity 04-03-2019 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 2795688)
It isn’t necessarily a public statement, so I won’t post it here, but the ENY MEC has issued a statement in response to the PSA contract situation. Check your emails.

Wow. "We had no idea how this happened!"

We're so screwed.

Bassman1985 04-03-2019 07:20 PM

Year (CA)
1: 83.60
2: 85.64
3: 87.68
4: 89.72
5: 91.76
6: 93.80
7: 95.83
8: 97.88
9: 99.91
10: 101.95
11: 103.99
12: 106.03
13: 108.58
14: 111.13
15: 113.67
16: 116.23
17: 118.78
18: 121.22

This is what we’re up against. Just for reference, I’m about to move up to $72.46 later this month as a 4th-year CA on scale B. PSA would have me at $89.72. Plus their new premium pay rules (125% for all flying above 75 hours and 200% above 87 hours). ALPA is about to get a massive fire mission of nastygrams from this pilot group.


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