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ERAUAV8TR 05-03-2019 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2813851)
I've said so many times it's getting old, my comments are 100% from live-in-base 175 FO point of view. They don't extend outside that scope.

I didn't say "1 step letter in all of DFW", read again, slowly, if you have hard time understanding what I said. I said I know of one, and he deserved it. If you ask around you'll find out, that most people really don't know anyone with one either. They are NOT handed out like candy like some people here claim, at least not in DFW.
And you really think my comments here affect the company in any meaningful way? You guys really have some serious delusions of grandeur - There's what, less than 1% of the pilot group who actually post here. The only reason why I bother is because you guys just spew your alternate facts trying to make it sound worse than it is.
Sometimes it's like watching a Trump press conference, in slow motion, on repeat.

Reality and facts is what people should stick with. I at least try, yeah sometimes I miss a few things, but at least try. Maybe you should try the same for a change.

FO so ur experience with this company is very little and should be noted with ur comments.

dera 05-03-2019 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR (Post 2813894)
FO so ur experience with this company is very little and should be noted with ur comments.

I think everyone here knows that. Sorry if U didn't. I mean, it only says "175 FO" as my position, maybe it's not obvious enough for u?

Tyrion 05-03-2019 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2813895)
I think everyone here knows that. Sorry if U didn't. I mean, it only says "175 FO" as my position, maybe it's not obvious enough for u?

In the land of unicorns is more accurate of your views than simply 175 FO. Personally, I think you should change your position to "Head Cheerleader on the Envoy Pep Squad", but that's just my opinion.

Inclined plane 05-03-2019 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 2813851)
And you really think my comments here affect the company in any meaningful way? You guys really have some serious delusions of grandeur - There's what, less than 1% of the pilot group who actually post here.



YES! Yes, many here DO think your comments actually hurt the pilot group by directly making the company seem like not such a bad place to work, and therefore you are acting as an unofficial recruiter, broadcasting that it’s not so bad at Envoy. Normally this isn’t a bad thing to just post the sorts of things you post, like favorable reserve times and other things that might seem attractive to a potential new hire, but do you really need to do that while we are trying to get raises, especially when our best chance at that is by hiring numbers to begin dwindling? So no, it’s not delusions of grandeur. It’s called common sense, which means to tread lightly during times the pilot group is in negotiations with the company. In other words, if you have something nice to say about our company, great but hey why not SAVE IT for when it wouldn’t literally be contrary to your pilot group’s best interest.



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martyByrde 05-08-2019 08:39 AM

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/envoy-air-3-56-million-wage-settlement-gets-final-approval

buddies8 05-08-2019 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by martyByrde (Post 2816391)
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/daily-labor-report/envoy-air-3-56-million-wage-settlement-gets-final-approval

What a surprise, envoy not paying what it agreed to or required by law.
Shocking. But aside from that we have the lowest paid pilots and flow to american.

Houpilot2001 05-08-2019 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 2816410)
What a surprise, envoy not paying what it agreed to or required by law.
Shocking. But aside from that we have the lowest paid pilots and flow to american.

Low pay + flow = FUPME

Varsity 05-16-2019 06:42 AM

Boutique air now pays $72/hour for a king air captain. 80hr/month guarantee. How much more is a that than a 175 captain at Envoy? 20k?

Cyio 05-16-2019 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2821181)
Boutique air now pays $72/hour for a king air captain. 80hr/month guarantee. How much more is a that than a 175 captain at Envoy? 20k?

That’s a depressing bit of news, thanks for the kick in the nuts. lol.

dera 05-16-2019 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by Varsity (Post 2821181)
Boutique air now pays $72/hour for a king air captain. 80hr/month guarantee. How much more is a that than a 175 captain at Envoy? 20k?

Most 135 PIC jobs pay better than regional PIC. Just FYI.


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