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Old 04-21-2019 | 11:11 AM
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Many employees struggle to survive in low wage jobs.

“I have co-workers who are on public assistance,” said James McKnight, who works for Envoy, a subsidiary of American Airlines. “Then the more I started talking to people sure enough I found out I do have co-workers who sleep in their cars in the employee parking lot and I’m like how is that possible.”

With a starting pay of $9.48 an hour – and hours often limited to 30 or less per week – it is not unusual for Envoy employees to make as little as $15,000 to $18,000 a year.

After two decades with the company, McKnight earns $43,000 a year. He lives frugally. Takes public transportation. But he doesn’t complain. He says he is better off than most.

“We do have an underground food pantry bank,” he explained. “So, if somebody is short, somebody will bring canned goods in, I’ve brought canned goods in, I’ve brought spaghetti and stuff like that for co-workers myself.”

In a written response, Envoy said it continues to try and negotiate a new contract with its workers:

“Envoy recognizes the hard work performed by its Customer Service Agents and has negotiated meaningful compensation, benefit and job security enhancements at the bargaining table with its Agents, and will continue to negotiate in good faith until a final agreement is reached.”

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Old 04-21-2019 | 11:31 AM
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Envoy is enabled to pay low wages due to the availability of SNAP and other benefits for low income workers. Those programs were originally designed for unemployed. The biggest corporate bailout programs ever was making those social safety net programs change from serving the unemployed to “low income.”

It allowed places like Envoy to continue paying low substandard wages which increased corporate profits... and forced taxpayers to make up the wage difference with expanded social programs.

Democrats get “credit” for helping the poor, when in reality it helps the corporation by increasing their profits and allowing them to continue paying substandard wages. The corporations love social safety net programs for the same reason, it increases corporate profits which can be reinvested into the company reducing corporate taxes to zero. So, they get the benefit, without paying for it.
Without the safety nets for “Low income” employers would have been forced to raise wages to a living income long long ago.

It’s the biggest scam ever.
Corporations are happy paying lower wages and getting higher profit
Low income folks are happy because the govt “cares” about them.
Democrats are happy because the low income folks are dependent upon them to keep those programs running, keeping them in power.

Return to safety nets for unemployed only, and watch how fast employers are forced to pay a living wage. Employees gain self respect and dignity from no longer needing public assistance, employers are forced to pay realistic wages, and government and politicians aren’t as powerful anymore.
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Old 04-21-2019 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665

It’s the biggest scam ever.
Corporations are happy paying lower wages and getting higher profit
Low income folks are happy because the govt “cares” about them.
Democrats are happy because the low income folks are dependent upon them to keep those programs running, keeping them in power.
And that is why the system will never change.
Old politicians know how it works.
"We all know what needs to be done to fix it. We just don't know how to get re-elected after we've done it".
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Old 05-01-2019 | 06:48 AM
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Turning a profit off government handouts and cadets parents subsidizing FO wages.
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Old 05-01-2019 | 08:06 AM
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It never ceases to amaze me the number of FOs (cadets) living at home with mom and dad.
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Old 05-01-2019 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Voski
It never ceases to amaze me the number of FOs (cadets) living at home with mom and dad.
In their defense. It's pretty difficult to make ends meet on envoy's $1600/month FO salary.
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Old 05-01-2019 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Voski
It never ceases to amaze me the number of FOs (cadets) living at home with mom and dad.
That’s why Envoy works the cadet program for everything they can. Kids that live at home with no responsibilities that have never had a real job and don’t know any better.
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Old 05-01-2019 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
That’s why Envoy works the cadet program for everything they can. Kids that live at home with no responsibilities that have never had a real job and don’t know any better.
But Swayne made them a video teaching them how to pick up OT.
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Old 05-01-2019 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by md-11loader
but swayne made them a video teaching them how to pick up ot.
lololololol
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Old 05-01-2019 | 10:41 AM
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These numbers seem off... I'm not buying it.


But for those who believe this, why does the union let the company get away with it?
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