Envoy's low wages makes the news
05-02-2019, 04:18 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by dera
Yep. OT pays more than PSA rates. Dont see what the problem is picking it up.
The problem is these kids who just don't know how the world works.
The problem is these kids who just don't know how the world works.
05-02-2019, 05:46 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by rld1k
PSA OT is 200%. Or are you comparing our OT to their regular hourly rate (lol).
We used to get critical that paid 150% during the rest of the year that was triggered by the reserve grid. Our union voluntarily gave that up along with a better 125% SDO for our new “premium pay” tier system. The old system was more complicated but it paid better.... and a heck of a lot better if you knew how to use it. I’m making $14/hour (18% raise) more with our new pay rates but will actually only make about 2% more than I was making with the old pay rates and better OT. And that was just using the 125% SDO. Days off are roughly the same, but I didn’t have to work as hard under the old system either.
I’m curious what you guy’s OT is like. Ours isn’t that great.
Last edited by Thedude86; 05-02-2019 at 06:09 AM.
05-02-2019, 05:53 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by Thedude86
Not getting involved in the rest of the argument, but this particular statement is not correct. The only time we (PSA) get 200% is during the week that covers Thanksgiving and Christmas. It’s also an LOA for each season. It’s not certain we’ll get that this year.
We used to get critical that paid 150% during the rest of the year that was triggered by the reserve grid. Our union voluntarily gave that up along with a better 125% SDO for our new “premium pay” tier system. The old system was more complicated but it paid better if you knew how to use it. I’m making $14/hour (18% raise) more with our new pay rates but will actually only make about 2% more than I was making with the old pay rates and better OT. And that was just using the 125% SDO. Days off are roughly the same, but I didn’t have to work as hard under the old system either.
I’m curious what you guy’s OT is like. Ours isn’t that great.
We used to get critical that paid 150% during the rest of the year that was triggered by the reserve grid. Our union voluntarily gave that up along with a better 125% SDO for our new “premium pay” tier system. The old system was more complicated but it paid better if you knew how to use it. I’m making $14/hour (18% raise) more with our new pay rates but will actually only make about 2% more than I was making with the old pay rates and better OT. And that was just using the 125% SDO. Days off are roughly the same, but I didn’t have to work as hard under the old system either.
I’m curious what you guy’s OT is like. Ours isn’t that great.
05-02-2019, 10:59 AM
#39
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Originally Posted by dera
Sorry, I forgot you need your 18 days off. You should try a real job for a change, not that anyone would hire you with your work ethic.
That's why the preferred pilot schedule is something like 15 days at 6 hours each (90 hour month). Not this 1 leg and lost day crap. Picking up OT is a band-aid to give some people a little extra cash that brings them closer to industry standard. Giving up 2 days off for 3 hours of pay to do an ACT overnight just isn't worth it.
Last edited by tomgoodman; 05-02-2019 at 11:09 AM. Reason: Removed epithet
05-02-2019, 11:33 AM
#40
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Originally Posted by Tyrion
The difference ... is that most "real jobs" (M-F 9-5) also have 8 days off a month. However, those guys get evenings at home, and they aren't 1000 miles away when their family needs them. Sure, we only "work" 20 hours in a week, but we are "at work" 100+ hours to get paid for those 20 hours.
That's why the preferred pilot schedule is something like 15 days at 6 hours each (90 hour month). Not this 1 leg and lost day crap. Picking up OT is a band-aid to give some people a little extra cash that brings them closer to industry standard. Giving up 2 days off for 3 hours of pay to do an ACT overnight just isn't worth it.
That's why the preferred pilot schedule is something like 15 days at 6 hours each (90 hour month). Not this 1 leg and lost day crap. Picking up OT is a band-aid to give some people a little extra cash that brings them closer to industry standard. Giving up 2 days off for 3 hours of pay to do an ACT overnight just isn't worth it.
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