Envoy from ACMI
05-27-2019 | 07:01 PM
#31
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He was fired from Envoy a couple of years back and has had an axe to grind ever since. If you look through his post history it’s nothing but posts in the Envoy sub forum. Very strange behavior from someone who was at Allegiant and now works at Delta. You’d think there’d be a post or two from either of those sub forums, but nothing. Hmmmmm.
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05-27-2019 | 10:25 PM
#33
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Yes I have. The flow seems to be longer than PDT or Envoy, hence my inquiry about Envoy. It sounds like PSA is treating their folks decently at the moment. I think I’ll head that direction if I don’t get a call from a major. My problem is that I won’t be finished with my bachelors degree until next year. I know that’s limiting my options at the moment. I got around 1000 hours of turbine PIC, an associates degree and volunteer experience but that doesn’t seem to go very far in terms of credibility. A bachelors degree and 121 PIC time is what I need, but I really just want that flow in my back pocket.
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Just an opinion from a line pilot, so you probably shouldn't take any of that advice
05-28-2019 | 02:48 AM
#34
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Spirit/JB/Frontier/Allegiant all hire folks without a 4 year degree. If you have a small child maybe day trips with Allegiant would be your best option for right now, and keep trying for the big 6 while you complete your degree? Regardless, I would keep barking up that tree before heading back to a regional. I'm not involved in recruitment by any means, but I feel like if I was an HR recruiter seeing someone go from 747 FO with 1k TPIC back to a regional it would make me scratch my head a bit. Personally, I feel like that kind of career U-turn would pretty much limit you to only the flow since you yourself proved how much faith you had in it to begin with.
Just an opinion from a line pilot, so you probably shouldn't take any of that advice
Just an opinion from a line pilot, so you probably shouldn't take any of that advice
You start at a new carrier you are going to have to go through the whole training cycle and all that entails. Stress, possible failure and being out of productivity and likely away from home more during that time. Stay where you’re at you are three months closer to your end goal.
05-28-2019 | 05:26 AM
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Spirit/JB/Frontier/Allegiant all hire folks without a 4 year degree. If you have a small child maybe day trips with Allegiant would be your best option for right now, and keep trying for the big 6 while you complete your degree? Regardless, I would keep barking up that tree before heading back to a regional. I'm not involved in recruitment by any means, but I feel like if I was an HR recruiter seeing someone go from 747 FO with 1k TPIC back to a regional it would make me scratch my head a bit. Personally, I feel like that kind of career U-turn would pretty much limit you to only the flow since you yourself proved how much faith you had in it to begin with.
Just an opinion from a line pilot, so you probably shouldn't take any of that advice
Just an opinion from a line pilot, so you probably shouldn't take any of that advice
That’s a concern I have. I don’t want to make a U-turn that would kill potential in this career. I’ll take advice from a line pilot. It’s easy to make rash decisions that have a negative impact.
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05-28-2019 | 01:23 PM
#36
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I'm not at Allegiant anymore. I got hired at Delta. Decided not to wait 9 years for that BS flow through and took some initiative. I would have been happy at AGT if I hadn't gotten the call from Delta. It's far, far superior to Envoy. Enjoy the toxic atmosphere there and your 9 to 10 year flow.
05-28-2019 | 04:37 PM
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05-28-2019 | 06:50 PM
#39
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Dude GTFO. If Spirit calls tomorrow, myself and plenty of other ladies and gents will politely (or not so much) step out this MF dumpster fire and not look back.
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