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Voski 05-27-2019 09:44 AM

People are getting to be super ornery at work about the pay situation and I don't blame them.

Tyrion 05-27-2019 09:54 AM

Oh, and it is not that Envoy is short staffed with captains... it is that Envoy schedules are so inefficient that many captains are only working a couple of hours each day. Gotta keep that monthly pay close to 72 hours.

ERAUAV8TR 05-27-2019 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Voski (Post 2827090)
People are getting to be super ornery at work about the pay situation and I don't blame them.

People are MAD!

Shiner 05-27-2019 07:11 PM

Just to give everyone an idea of when you’ll make pay band C, I just hit the higher pay band and I’m at 6 years, 1 month on property. Roughly 10-12 months out from flow at this point depending on if AA slows down classes this fall.


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highfarfast 05-27-2019 07:28 PM

Just to make sure those not at Envoy that have bothered to read this far down understand the language, pay band C is the pay referenced in the OP as 175 pay. Pay at Envoy is NOT dependent on equipment in any way.

Please, SOMEONE edit that post!!!

CaseTractor 05-28-2019 05:20 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2827391)
Just to make sure those not at Envoy that have bothered to read this far down understand the language, pay band C is the pay referenced in the OP as 175 pay. Pay at Envoy is NOT dependent on equipment in any way.

Please, SOMEONE edit that post!!!

NO joke... It should be categorized as:

"most CAs" get paid less

and

"a few CAs" get paid a LITTLE more.

highfarfast 05-28-2019 05:32 AM


Originally Posted by CaseTractor (Post 2827499)
NO joke... It should be categorized as:

"most CAs" get paid less

and

"a few CAs" get paid a LITTLE more.

The higher pay band shouldn't ever be listed IMO. No one sees it until just before they flow and it should not factor into a new hire's decision to come here. All it does is create confusion. Hell, we have guys on property that don't even understand it.

pitchattitude 05-28-2019 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2827505)
The higher pay band shouldn't ever be listed IMO. No one sees it until just before they flow and it should not factor into a new hire's decision to come here. All it does is create confusion. Hell, we have guys on property that don't even understand it.

That’s all part of the Envoy smoke and mirror show.

Ijustlikeflying 05-29-2019 04:22 AM

Payyyyyy
 
What the heck is going on with these negotiations? You would think they are negotiating the new China trade deal...Jesus

UnprotectdPilot 05-29-2019 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by Ijustlikeflying (Post 2828030)
What the heck is going on with these negotiations? You would think they are negotiating the new China trade deal...Jesus

Remember: SkyWest negotiated higher pay and better work rules ... and they don't have a union. :rolleyes:


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