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UncreativeUser 05-30-2019 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2829151)
They’ve been ramping up the cadet program continuously. Recently added UND.



It appears UND got downgraded actually


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HalyardJammer 05-31-2019 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2829166)
Why does APC allow blatant lies on the envoy page?

"Envoy Air now offers industry leading pay, placing Envoy among the top regional airlines in pilot compensation"

This is objectively false. Let's not even start on the 5.5 year flow. Do the admins just allow whatever the company wants up there? How about some integrity from the site.

Have you tried editing the page? I used to send in edits, but haven't tried in a while.

Varsity 06-01-2019 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2829166)
Why does APC allow blatant lies on the envoy page?

"Envoy Air now offers industry leading pay, placing Envoy among the top regional airlines in pilot compensation"

This is objectively false. Let's not even start on the 5.5 year flow. Do the admins just allow whatever the company wants up there? How about some integrity from the site.

Should have the 175 rates removed too. You will fly the 175 for 145 rates.

Weekendwarrior2 06-01-2019 10:27 AM

I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t get anything until August/September. Yes, we don’t want to rush it and get something sh*** but let’s be honest, good times are always right around the corner at the place. This should have been all figured out weeks ago.

highfarfast 06-01-2019 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Weekendwarrior2 (Post 2829912)
I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t get anything until August/September. Yes, we don’t want to rush it and get something sh*** but let’s be honest, good times are always right around the corner at the place. This should have been all figured out weeks ago.

Nothing is happening anytime soon. All management cares about is getting the pilots they need in class. So long as they are getting pilots in class, no raises. And since all new hires can hear is flow and 175, that's what's going to happen for a while.

And if we have to wait this out until the classes are drying up and management is desperate, then we should accept nothing less than Endeavor rates PLUS something. None of this PSA crap.

EnyFlyr 06-01-2019 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 2829917)

And if we have to wait this out until the classes are drying up and management is desperate, then we should accept nothing less than Endeavor rates PLUS something. None of this PSA crap.

This is pretty much what I emailed ALPA, it will take some time for sure ..above post sounds too optimistic

buddies8 06-01-2019 11:00 AM

Ignorance is bliss

Houpilot2001 06-01-2019 11:54 AM

Recruiting/school house is boasting the pay raises will come in 2 weeks. :D

FUPM

pitchattitude 06-01-2019 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by Houpilot2001 (Post 2829945)
Recruiting/school house is boasting the pay raises will come in 2 weeks. :D

FUPM

They lie about flow, why shouldn’t they lie about that, too?

Anything to keep them coming in. And it keeps working. Just look at the people who think “the pay will come around” in other threads.

I (and many other pragmatists) have said it since about the time Endeavor got raises. As long as people are coming in MANAGEMENT HAS NO REASON TO GIVE RAISES!

There are enough uninformed signing up for the programs that Envoy has that they have a good pipeline. Especially with cadets that live at home with Momma that will fly the SNJ for nothing.

FUPM

Justadude91 06-01-2019 02:35 PM

Prob second week in June maybe third.


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