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EnyFlyr 06-28-2019 06:57 AM
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2844489)
Company has recently posted a vacancy for 60 145 FOs in NY. No one is going to bid those slots. They will be assigned to new hires.

Hope you enjoy flying an obsolete jet in the most challenging weather and airspace in the country, 20 minutes at a time.
Did that commute out of DFW for a few months, I would prob quit and give up my seniority before being forced to commute in and out of NY again

use2fly 06-28-2019 07:25 AM
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2844489)
Company has recently posted a vacancy for 60 145 FOs in NY. No one is going to bid those slots. They will be assigned to new hires.

Hope you enjoy flying an obsolete jet in the most challenging weather and airspace in the country, 20 minutes at a time.
What makes it obsolete? It's not new and shinny?

NoValueAviator 06-28-2019 07:59 AM
Originally Posted by use2fly (Post 2844520)
What makes it obsolete? It's not new and shinny?
No coupled VNAV, poor fuel economy (no future, will be back in desert soon), underpowered (have fun throwing pax off for fuel constantly), perfunctory “FMS,” structural 250-below-ten in a world where you are always restricted at 250, .78 structural cruise in a world where ATC needs you at .80. Mainly those things. It is obsolete in a few charming ways too, but those are the ugly ones.

EnyFlyr 06-28-2019 08:56 AM
Originally Posted by use2fly (Post 2844520)
What makes it obsolete? It's not new and shinny?
It breaks often, just the other day we were flying around with one pack MELed in 90 degree weather

use2fly 06-28-2019 09:04 AM
Originally Posted by EnyFlyr (Post 2844585)
It breaks often, just the other day we were flying around with one pack MELed in 90 degree weather
And that doesn't happen in new planes? Sounds more like a company problem.

bitwiser 06-28-2019 09:46 AM
Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2844489)
Company has recently posted a vacancy for 60 145 FOs in NY. No one is going to bid those slots. They will be assigned to new hires.

Hope you enjoy flying an obsolete jet in the most challenging weather and airspace in the country, 20 minutes at a time.
I think their real angle here is hoping to displace some of the junior 145 FOs into a NFE status, thus avoiding the 3 months of A pass travel and hotels that they'd have to give new hires but not somebody being forced from a different base.

If you're barely holding an OFE status right now, be very afraid.

havick206 06-28-2019 10:21 AM
Originally Posted by bitwiser (Post 2844624)
I think their real angle here is hoping to displace some of the junior 145 FOs into a NFE status, thus avoiding the 3 months of A pass travel and hotels that they'd have to give new hires but not somebody being forced from a different base.

If you're barely holding an OFE status right now, be very afraid.
This was always their game plan. Artificially load up ORD then send everyone back to LGA en masse without hotels and A pass travel.

NoValueAviator 06-28-2019 10:50 AM
lol I’m still not used to thinking on the level of psychopath the management is on

And if that doesn’t get the noggin joggin, they’re cutting lines by another ~50% in the NY domicile by October according to RW. Maybe the plan is to staff the flying entirely with reserves.

cLA99 10-24-2019 10:46 PM
What Has Changed?
 
Originally Posted by Flyguy255 (Post 2844147)
I’m doing my cadet HR and technical interviews next week and assuming they go well and I’m offered the position do I have to sign a letter of commitment on the spot?

After following everything going on at Envoy I want to keep my options open and I’m cautious of making a commitment.

Thanks.

It's been a few months since Envoy's pay increase.
Is Envoy's Cadet program maybe more attractive?

If not, Why should I stay away from Envoy?

speedbrakearmed 10-24-2019 10:51 PM
Despite all the complaining that people love to do, Envoy is a fine place to work. Nowhere is perfect but I've had a good time at Envoy so far. Yes I live in base but I honestly don't have much to complain about.


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