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OldBiff 07-06-2019 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup (Post 2848584)
You should read this to your kids when they go to bed tonight.

Maybe someone should have read it to you. At what point are you responsible for your decisions? Having a kid is a decision, just like spending your money on hookers and jet skis is a decision. I don’t think one is any more or less responsible than the other they’re just choices. My kids are taught that their decisions have consequences, what do you teach your kids? The world doesn’t owe you a raise

rld1k 07-06-2019 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by OldBiff (Post 2848632)
Maybe someone should have read it to you. At what point are you responsible for your decisions? Having a kid is a decision, just like spending your money on hookers and jet skis is a decision. I don’t think one is any more or less responsible than the other they’re just choices. My kids are taught that their decisions have consequences, what do you teach your kids? The world doesn’t owe you a raise because you couldn’t use a rubber.

Wow, classless

OldBiff 07-06-2019 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2848640)
Wow, classless

Like expecting people/company/society to kick in because you had a kid? I guess there are always takers.

Fourpaw 07-06-2019 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 2848526)
And I bet their reasonings are a lot different other than they need to make more money to maintain afloat financially.

Negative, tax benefits.

uavking 07-06-2019 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2848620)
I’ve compared checks to a Skywest FO and been horrified. Take home is take home, and influenced by a lot of things, but I made less than half of what this guy did, with 4 less days off.

#SkyBest will take guys with a longevity match if things are truly that bad here. I'm sure anyone in their defacto crew room at the base of the ORD G concourse can square folks away on questions.

Play the long game.

rld1k 07-06-2019 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by OldBiff (Post 2848643)
Like expecting people/company/society to kick in because you had a kid? I guess there are always takers.

I don't even have kids, I want to get paid a living wage for doing a professional job. I don't understand pilots that constantly work against themselves. I think there's a phrase for that, blue falcon?

Varsity 07-06-2019 02:10 PM


Originally Posted by OldBiff (Post 2848643)
Like expecting people/company/society to kick in because you had a kid? I guess there are always takers.

Company to kick in because he had a kid? I think he just expects the company to pay him enough to afford a kid. That’s not asking much. We sound like a pack of peasants, which we are.

OldBiff 07-06-2019 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2848647)
I don't even have kids, I want to get paid a living wage for doing a professional job. I don't understand pilots that constantly work against themselves. I think there's a phrase for that, blue falcon?

I’m not against pay raises, but I am against crappy emotional reasoning. We should be paid at levels at or above that of our peers. Full stop. Breaking out the saucer eyed baby pics does nothing to strengthen that argument, it weakens it.

Pedro4President 07-06-2019 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by OldBiff (Post 2848550)
So someone who has a lifestyle/family they can afford is immature? That’s rich. You know how kids are made and what this job paid when you took it. Your lack of decision making, math, and family planning skills isn’t strengthening your point. Should we get raises? Sure, but not because you make poor life choices.

I don’t think you have a clue about the point I’m making. Simply put the average FO will bring home 2500. 99% will make between 2-3k per month take home.

I’m not following here. Are you saying having wife and kid is a poor life choice?

dera 07-06-2019 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2848420)
Let’s just put this back here to remind us how this rabbit trail started. You continue to show how young and immature you are. You have no wife, kids, and very little life outside of work. Not going to fault you for working your ass off. I did it for a season of my flying career.

That being said your original comment was pompous and immature. There are things called deductions that effect take home pay. Comparing take home pay is grossly misleading. You took home +30% more than I did on a mid month check when I was on a higher pay bracket. I’m really just curious how much you credit and how much OT you pick up.

You got one right about no wife, kids or life outside of work. Just one of those.
I'm also older than you are.

You got the numbers you asked for. The fact that you choose to deduct more from your paycheck is a personal choice. No state income tax in TX helps too.

To me - this is the time to work my ass off. Any 175 FO can do what I'm doing - at least for now. I've posted so many comments about the fact that my posts are only valid for 175 FO's I think they are going out of fashion, or something. The latest 175 NH's will likely have a different experience with the displacements coming up.

Fly a lot, get your time, and GTFO from a regional. For DFW guys who are lucky enough to get the 175, it's a good deal. That's all I've ever said.


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