Originally Posted by BIueSideUp (Post 2847475)

All jokes aside, if the OP is still listening... If you live in base and have the time, maybe consider becoming a realtor. It's not pricey to get the certs you need most places, and your success is mostly based on your own skill development and what you put into it. It's a serious backup plan if you lose your med/license too.

Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2848420)

Let’s just put this back here to remind us how this rabbit trail started. You continue to show how young and immature you are. You have no wife, kids, and very little life outside of work. Not going to fault you for working your ass off. I did it for a season of my flying career.

Originally Posted by OldBiff (Post 2848550)

So someone who has a lifestyle/family they can afford is immature? That’s rich. You know how kids are made and what this job paid when you took it. Your lack of decision making, math, and family planning skills isn’t strengthening your point. Should we get raises? Sure, but not because you make poor life choices.

Originally Posted by rld1k (Post 2848568)

So basically airline pilots are not allowed to have kids until they are 35-40 yrs old on average. Good point.

Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 2848325)

typical FO take home remains 2200-2400 w/ per diem, ~1900 w/o

You can’t just assume people will pick up OT or that critical coverage will be offered

On the more socially responsible topic of side gigs, there are opportunities for tutoring all over. Someone said they have an insurance license, Kaplan hires tutors for the insurance licensing exams in every state. Otherwise if there’s a college or flight school you can offer tutoring there, assuming you have the academic chops.

Originally Posted by OldBiff (Post 2848550)

So someone who has a lifestyle/family they can afford is immature? That’s rich. You know how kids are made and what this job paid when you took it. Your lack of decision making, math, and family planning skills isn’t strengthening your point. Should we get raises? Sure, but not because you make poor life choices.

Originally Posted by FlyPurdue (Post 2848404)

I am pretty sure that I have met Dera before...good dude, and definitely not management. Dera is hustler - good for him.

What needs to be reiterated is this...if you come to Envoy, there is a chance that you will be awarded the E175. If you then also live/move to DFW or ORD...life might be pretty descent, and you might have then have an opportunity to net 4K a month, but you are going to be working considerable harder compared to Skywest, Endeavor, ExpressJet, Republic, or PSA. If you hustled there, I bet you could break 5-6k a month as an FO, or working less while having a much better experience as an FO, ~4K a months still very possible.

Conversely...if you can’t move to base, or get assigned the EMJ, life will be considerably different.

Originally Posted by Pedro4President (Post 2848448)

There is only one answer. LEAVE. Find a better job that pays more. This isn’t a quit if you don’t like it statement. Or if you are so unhappy why don’t you leave quip.

The only way we are going to get better pay is if they can’t keep pilots in the seat. The mass exodus of 2014-2015 lead to the FO bonus plus jump two pay scales LOA.

Side note when I was on reserve my wife asked me if I got fired and didn’t want to tell her because I was home so much. I started driving for Uber and Lyft while on RAP and the wife and kid were at work and school. I needed something I could quit at a moments notice and go to work.

Originally Posted by MochaSwirl (Post 2848526)

And I bet their reasonings are a lot different other than they need to make more money to maintain afloat financially.

Originally Posted by TheWeatherman (Post 2848590)

You’re right, I have had my mid month paychecks alone be over 4K after taxes before at Republic as an FO.